Wikipedia lists a few methane/LOX engines that have been used in test flights. For example, NASA's experimental Morpheus lander had fifteen or so test flights -- all low altitude, but some higher and longer lasting than StarHopper's hop today. It's also being developed simultaneously with Blue Origin's BE-4 engine, which hasn't flown yet, but has been through an extensive ground test program, and will be used on both Blue's own New Glenn orbital rocket and on ULA's Vulcan. So depending on how quickly the relevant test programs go, Raptor may or may not wind up being the first to be part of an orbital vehicle. (But as neither Vulcan nor New Glenn is currently slated to use it for the second stage, Raptor will very likely be the first to go all the way to orbit.)
Re:150 Meter SpaceX Starhopper Test [video]
by JshWright on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @10:47PM
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Yeah, Raptor is the first full-flow staged-combustion engine to fly, but not the first methalox.
Re:150 Meter SpaceX Starhopper Test [video]
by Robotbeat on Thursday August 29, 2019 @01:11PM
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I should point out that John Carmack's Armadillo Aerospace are the ones who actually built Morpheus.
Re:150 Meter SpaceX Starhopper Test [video]
by avmich on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @09:04PM
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> I think Raptor might be the first Methane-based rocket engine as well.
If I remember correctly, John Carmack's Armadillo Aerospace tried burning methane in an engine. Though I don't think they were the only team - or even the first one.
Re:150 Meter SpaceX Starhopper Test [video]
by sebazzz on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:43AM
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How can methane be created on Mars? It is a gas right, and it isn't that cold there?
Re:150 Meter SpaceX Starhopper Test [video]
by MPSimmons on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @02:33AM
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Methane is CH4. Carbon from Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and Hydrogen from Water (H2O).
Stoichiometrically, CO2 + (2)H2O -> CH4 + (2)O2
The process is performed via the Sabatier Reaction, which someone else linked to.
Re:150 Meter SpaceX Starhopper Test [video]
by agildehaus on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:52AM
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Everything SpaceX does is moving towards a goal of enabling a colony of 1M+ people on Mars as soon as possible. A lot of people are confused by SpaceX decisions, but if you view it through the lens of Mars colonization, then it all usually makes more sense.
I think Raptor might be the first Methane-based rocket engine as well.