Let's build houses for people, not cars

Re:Let's build houses for people, not cars by hammock on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @10:08AM (#20809724)

I can't find a source at the moment, but I have to believe there are more affordable housing units in Manhattan, SF, London and Hong Kong than in most other places in the world. Do you agree?

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Re:Let's build houses for people, not cars by CapricornNoble on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @12:40PM (#20811628)

Hong Kong? Definitely not. London also looks pretty terrible (affordability-wise). SF surprised me but its probably just because local incomes are so high.[1]

This Tableau/OpenStreetMap chart isn't quite displaying correctly for me but it paints a bleak picture of California's affordability. Not sure if you can scroll over to NYC.[2]

This last source has London, NYC, and HK all in its "most expensive" 5 (from an odd assortment of cities) for rent-to-income ratio.[3]

[1]https://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/gmaps_rankings.js...

[2]https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/07/heres-the-share-of-income-th...

[3]https://www.weetas.com/article/rent-income-ratio-17-major-ci...

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Re:Let's build houses for people, not cars by hammock on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @12:53PM (#20811824)

I'm not talking about average rent. I'm talking about supply of affordable housing units.

45% of Hong Kongers live in public or subsidized housing.[1] That's over 3 million people. That's a lot of affordable housing, in a very dense city!

You suggested suburbs would be better. Can you name any city's suburb(s) that has enough affordable housing for 3 million people?

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_in_Hong_Kong

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Re:Let's build houses for people, not cars by CapricornNoble on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @01:24PM (#20812221)

>>>Can you name any city's suburb(s) that has enough affordable housing for 3 million people?

Sure: Yokohama, if you'll accept a city of 3.7 million as a "suburb" of a city of 14 million+. Just as a rough guide, compare these two results: [1][2]. The lowest Yokohama rents are HALF of the lowest HK ones, and I'm fairly confident that lower-class/lower-middle class incomes are not doubled in HK.

[1]https://realestate.co.jp/en/rent/listing?order=12A&page=1&pr...

[2]https://www.squarefoot.com.hk/en/rent/list/?sortBy=price-asc

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