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Re:Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Asc... by mises on Monday August 26, 2019 @04:34PM (#20803486)
Let's be real, the Chinese have been stealing technology right and left for years. Losses number between $225 and $600 billion per year [0]. One in five companies has had its technology stolen [1]. They will just steal the tech. Or maybe they'll decide it's easier to work with AMD (they're already doing it on the CPU side [2]).

This is not popular to say, but it is accurate and my statements are sourced. Feel free to provide rebutting evidence if you disagree.

[0]: https://money.cnn.com/2018/03/23/technology/china-us-trump-t...

[1]: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/28/1-in-5-companies-say-china-s...

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD%E2%80%93Chinese_joint_vent...

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Re:Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Asc... by Aperocky on Monday August 26, 2019 @06:05PM (#20804254)
The methodology in the US study seem to suggest that Chinese are inable to do anything on their own and any technology that US company have that somehow China also got, is ALL counted as stolen.

That's a very fun verdict

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Re:Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Asc... by The_rationalist on Monday August 26, 2019 @08:22PM (#20805060)
Especially since China is the number one scientific country in terms of number of published papers and e.g are the leaders in nuclear fission and AI.
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Re:Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Asc... by hutzlibu on Monday August 26, 2019 @05:05PM (#20803770)
The losses numbers are from a US government investigation. So they might have some bias ... and therefore not really mean anything.
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Re:Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Asc... by gamblor956 on Monday August 26, 2019 @04:48PM (#20803605)
I'm surprised that it's only 1 in 5 companies. Based on prior client experiences with Chinese contractors, I would have expected it to be 5 of 5 foreign companies doing business in China.
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Re:Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Asc... by mises on Monday August 26, 2019 @04:50PM (#20803628)
I would assume that it's due to a limited number of companies having useful IP to steal. I have had similar experience with several companies, and hear similar stats from those who work with other companies, but that is anecdotal. I would also hazard a guess that many companies don't want to admit it, even if it does happen.
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Re:Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Asc... by mindslight on Monday August 26, 2019 @06:00PM (#20804215)
What you say may be accurate, but it's also extremely biased by a paradigm of strict imaginary property... which isn't necessarily useful for understanding how things are going to play out.
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Re:Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Asc... by Taniwha on Monday August 26, 2019 @05:16PM (#20803853)
You can't steal an open source ISA .... unless you don't follow the license (which in this case is trivial to do)
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