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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by novok on Friday August 23, 2019 @05:03PM (#20782532)
I think the solution is transforming a segment of incarceration into medical help, or expanding medical conservatorship.

If you smell like crap and can't sustain a life because of drug addictions or mental illness, and your behavior causes problems for society, you need to be helped, and maybe against your will.

The vast majority of homeless are actually not visible and look like and act like normal people. They often get out of being homeless in a few years. It's the chronic homeless who need help, might always need help, that ruin the public space for everyone else.

Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by rdtwo on Friday August 23, 2019 @05:24PM (#20782742)
Respectfully disagree. The invisible homeless need the most help because they could really benefit and return to society for not that much cost. The visible homeless are mostly addicts and mentally ill that are too far gone to be anything more than contained.
Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by novok on Friday August 23, 2019 @06:37PM (#20783405)
They often already get help, and are the segment that help actually helps them. But it's the visibile chronic criminal homeless w/ drug and mental illness problems that make a city worse for everyone, including the invisible homeless.
Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by rdtwo on Saturday August 24, 2019 @11:50AM (#20787824)
Agreed, in Seattle some of the activist groups actually actively make the chronic homeless more visible to increase funding to the other group. It’s a very effective strategy actually.