Locked Tesla stolen in 30 seconds in London with fob relay trick

Re:Locked Tesla stolen in 30 seconds in London with fob rela... by smileypete on Thursday August 22, 2019 @10:29AM (#20768433)

Needs some '2FA', like actually putting the key in the ignition. :)

Or a tiny motion sensor in the key, if it's still then don't authenticate.

[Edit:] Suitable sensor, 2012 technology! https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1317349#

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Re:Locked Tesla stolen in 30 seconds in London with fob rela... by 693471 on Thursday August 22, 2019 @11:22AM (#20769094)

There is 2FA, they just didn't enable it. There's a PIN to drive feature where you have to put a pin number in on the main touchscreen. It also moves to a different location each time so nobody can look at fingerprints.

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Re:Locked Tesla stolen in 30 seconds in London with fob rela... by zaroth on Thursday August 22, 2019 @01:18PM (#20770328)

I’ve never used the PIN, that is awesome that it shifts around!

Does the order of the digits shuffle, or does the whole UI element move, or both?

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Re:Locked Tesla stolen in 30 seconds in London with fob rela... by 693471 on Thursday August 22, 2019 @04:56PM (#20772284)

Whole UI element moves

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Re:Locked Tesla stolen in 30 seconds in London with fob rela... by LilBytes on Thursday August 22, 2019 @11:17AM (#20769029)

If anyone had told me 10 years ago that we should encourage cars to have MFA and that I'd agree with the argument, I'd have lost my mind.

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Re:Locked Tesla stolen in 30 seconds in London with fob rela... by SmileyRedBall on Thursday August 22, 2019 @12:18PM (#20769680)

> Needs some '2FA', like actually putting the key in the ignition. :) Or a tiny motion sensor in the key, if it's still then don't authenticate.

Or use infrared to unlock the car, that requires you to stand next to the car and therefore shielding the device from any leakage :]

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