£6 for a 90 minute 130 mile trip? Sure is amazing.

High costs on the WCML for flexible peak fares are becase

1) The costs subsidise rail elsewhere, like regional networks in the North and Welsh Valleys

2) The price encourages people to take less busier trains

(2) falls down a bit with the hard cutoff, because there's no "shoulder peak" at Euston, meaning that 1840 is empty but the 1900 is really full, but the principle remains.

£120 from Euston to Lime Street sitting on the floor bank holiday weekend. HS2 can't come soon enough.

Given that a walk up fare on a bank holiday is £89.60 return I struggle to see where you get £120 from. If you're happy to take a slow train it's £35 return.

Bank holidays are always very busy, you'd think that if prices were really so high people wouldn't travel. The extra 10,000 seats an hour that HS2 provides will certainly help though.

> Given that a walk up fare on a bank holiday is £89.60 return

An relative bargain compared to London-Leeds costing £113.50

Yet of tou’re Willing to take longer it’s £35 rtutn, or about 10p/mile

Pray tell, what is this route for £35 off-peak, walk-up?

Euston to Liverpool on LM. Trains are direct at xx:49, or change at Crewe

No break of journey on the outbound but allowed on return.