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Re:15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete by d1zzy on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @06:06PM (#20762378)
To get the benefits that you would get from such a union (whether they see those as benefits is up to them):

* access to single market and currency

* federal loans/money

* territory protection from other countries military intervention

* freedom of movement (including study, work, living, etc) within all the other states of the union

If states want to do some things differently that's why there are state level laws. If those states don't find that they have the right amount of freedom at the state level and think those benefits above matter less than being able to outvote 3:1 a citizen in California when it comes to presidential election then, I guess, they are free to leave the union?

Re:15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete by wincy on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @06:12PM (#20762450)
They aren’t free to leave the union though. The last time the states disagreed on this a rebellion was put down violently by the north.
Re:15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete by Multicomp on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @06:22PM (#20762536)
States were added by acts of Congress. It logically follows the same can be done in reverse.

But it needs to be on agreed upon and mostly amicable terms, or the state(s) desiring to leave will be unable to get the necessary votes.

The southern states trying to take their slavery and go home knew this for decades before, so they didn't even bother.

Re:15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete by kspacewalk2 on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @06:23PM (#20762542)
Sure they are, in modern times. If there's an overwhelming majority that wants independence, a state will eventually secede. In a democratic or even a hybrid system, a country's politics, laws and constitution eventually change to adapt to overwhelming wishes of the majority.
Re:15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete by theli0nheart on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @06:41PM (#20762702)
Good points!