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Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by epanchin on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:10AM (#20745553)
Additional batteries in trailers doesn’t seem unreasonable.
Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by UI_at_80x24 on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:36AM (#20745723)
Or, you could just put a generator on the trailer, and get unlimited range! =)
Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by VBprogrammer on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:58AM (#20745868)
There was an excellent old website (it when by the name Mr. Sharkey but is sadly no longer around except in some archives with missing photos) which detailed a guys experiments with an old VW Rabbit EV. He actually built a range extender trailer for it based on the front of another VW rabbit. One interesting thing is he wasn't powering a generator but actually pushed the car via the tow ball and the engine and transmission from the donor car.

Found it on archive.org: http://web.archive.org/web/20121105135914/http://www.mrshark...

Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @08:03AM (#20745911)
>but actually pushed the car via the tow ball and the engine and transmission from the donor car.

I'm sure that handled spectacularly on on-ramps. It would be like flat towing another vehicle and coming into a corner too hot.

Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by schiffern on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @10:11AM (#20747218)
That project was inspired by a pusher trailer built by JB Straubel[1] (co-founder and former CTO of Tesla), and in Straubel's write-up he addresses this:

> Dynamics:

> Despite the facts that I shortened the trailer of the Gen-2 pusher by two feet and added more IC horsepower and much more pushing force with the ability of the AT to downshift...I have still found it basically impossible to get into a condition of oversteer. (This is where the car would want to turn into the direction of the turn if you take your hand off the wheel, normaly if you release the wheel a vehicle will straighten itself out of a turn) Even in relatively tight turns with the trailer at nearly full power, the car wants to straighten itself out. The shortened trailer also drafts behind the EV much better further improving the mpg.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20120319173545/http://www.jstrau...

Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @01:15PM (#20749390)
That contradicts the experience of basically everyone that's ever towed anything. I'm gonna ignore a bunch of second order variables here but if you come into a turn too hot for the weight of the trailer compared to the tow vehicle the trailer can and will push the rear of the car straight (over-steer). This is exacerbated by long trailer axle spreads and short tongue length (hence why flat towing a car feels the way it does).

Maybe he just drives really conservatively everywhere (wouldn't surprise me since a light foot was key for extending range on early EVs and many people developed that habit) or maybe the trailer is just light enough and being single axle makes it easy to steer enough that the natural tendency of the car to straighten out is greater.

Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by VBprogrammer on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @02:27PM (#20750284)
I wouldn't trust anyone crazy enough to build this contraption to evaluate how safe it is. I mean, it's probably fine for him, but you wouldn't want your [stereotypical poor driver of choice] to be driving it on a wet day.
Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by VBprogrammer on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @08:34AM (#20746185)
I did say it was interesting! Safe, not so much.

To be fair, I think he basically fired it up when he got to the interstate, manually set the throttle to the speed he wanted to cruise at then turned it off again before coming off the interstate.

Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @08:59AM (#20746422)
The early days of EVs reminds me of the early days of rock crawling. People tried all these wacky things because there was no instruction manual to follow, they were writing it.
Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by epanchin on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:58AM (#20745874)
Honestly that isn’t a bad idea. It would also allow you to go on road trips where there is no charging network. Better than buying a fully ICE car instead.

I wonder if a electric car with a generator in a trailer would still be tax exempt...

Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by londons_explore on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @04:32AM (#20755444)
No electric car I'm aware of allows you to charge while driving, even with software mods and hacks.
Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by VBprogrammer on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @05:08PM (#20752157)
You know, there might be more to that than meets the eye. If you are adding batteries to the trailer you might as well add a pair of electric motors and make it almost self propelled (like a multiple unit train). It would avoid needing to make the tow car overpowered.
Re:Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire by rhinoceraptor on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @02:06PM (#20749996)
I'm not sure what the rocket equation for EV battery capacity would be, but EV batteries are very heavy, pretty bulky, and they need fluid heating/cooling for optimal performance. It's not as simple as hooking up the lights for a trailer.