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Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong by Aeolun on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @12:31AM (#20743859)
Clearly it is an alternative to democracy. It’s existed more or less successfully for some 80 years now.

The question is if it’s really a place any of us (who grew up in a democracy) would want to live.

The ethos of the CCP is just fundamentally incompatible with my own worldview, even though I can admit to their effectiveness so far.

I’m not really willing to accept the existence of such a country in my world either.

Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong by LilBytes on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @02:06AM (#20744214)
Yes, totalitarian dictatorships are a literal alternative to Democracy, though I feel we're nitpicking on the semantics of my words here.

When I say I don't see Totalitarian Dictatorships as an alternative, I don't mean in the literal sense, I mean in the viable sense. In the literal sense, yes, it's an alternative to Democracy. As is building a house on sand is a literal but not viable alternative to building a house on concrete.

I don't think many would want to live under a Chinese authoritarian rule given the Democratic alternatives. Or perhaps they would until they're rounded up in Xinjiang camps, shot in the face with rubber bullets for wanting to protect their current way of life or ran over by Tanks by asking for change to better their way of life.

But if we've seen what the conversations that are occurring in China about these violent acts taken by the CCP, it's clear the populace think it's in their best interests at this time. Though it's worth adding that the message we receive about the CCP's actions is very different to those living in China. I recommend anyone to watch the documentary created by Vice below about the atrocities that are occurring in Xinjiang and the first hand opinions of those that live there.

I would guess the opinions of those being interviewed are honest with a side of oppression.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ

Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong by chrischen on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @04:17PM (#20761218)
> I don't think many would want to live under a Chinese authoritarian rule given the Democratic alternatives. Or perhaps they would until they're rounded up in Xinjiang camps, shot in the face with rubber bullets for wanting to protect their current way of life or ran over by Tanks by asking for change to better their way of life.

There's an easy way to find out. Go poll the Chinese people. To be honest many Chinese do want to leave, but only because the country has been poor and most western countries are wealthy. This has been lessening over time.

Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong by ospider on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:09AM (#20745546)
Speaking of documentaries, I would recommend BBC's The People's Republic of Capitalism [1].

[1]. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtf2H4YrYVw

Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong by chrischen on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @02:36AM (#20744332)
China is not a totalitarian dictatorship.
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong by LilBytes on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:36AM (#20745724)
No?

Definition:

Totalitarianism is a political concept of a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life.