Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by kevin_b_er on Monday August 19, 2019 @03:42PM
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When the fake news is generated and controlled by a government entity, I think the better term is "propaganda".
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Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by guerrilla on Monday August 19, 2019 @03:53PM
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It seems unreasonable to restrict the term propaganda to government since any organization can produce propaganda, i.e. "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view."
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by brightball on Monday August 19, 2019 @04:05PM
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If it's not from the government, we call it marketing. :-)
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by guerrilla on Monday August 19, 2019 @04:11PM
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This is incorrect. Marketing is not necessarily used to promote political change. There are plenty of examples of propaganda in for-proft and non-profit (yet non-state) media which is clearly propaganda and not marketing simultaneously.
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by Jedi72 on Monday August 19, 2019 @05:21PM
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Best example of Market-ganda ever, marketers protecting their own. 6 names for the same idea - manipulating others for self-gain.
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by chrischen on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:43PM
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Tell that to the political facebook ad companies.
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by smt88 on Monday August 19, 2019 @04:33PM
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When Trump sells MAGA hats, it is both marketing and a tool for political change.
Musk selling electric cars can also fall under both categories. People with electric cars are more likely to support policies that make it easier to own electric cars and less likely to care about fossil fuels.
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by umvi on Monday August 19, 2019 @04:13PM
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Unless it's from a media outlet in which case we call it "agenda"
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by guerrilla on Monday August 19, 2019 @04:15PM
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Nah, it's still called propaganda. The agenda is what is promoted, not the product nor technique of the promotion.
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by dionian on Monday August 19, 2019 @04:54PM
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Also wrong to call only negative things propaganda
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by guerrilla on Monday August 19, 2019 @05:29PM
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Good catch.
Re:Information operations directed at Hong Kong
by samstave on Monday August 19, 2019 @04:31PM
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If you havent already, watch the two following Documentaries:
"Century of Self"
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/
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"Human Resources"
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-resources/
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