Dunno, at Autobahn speeds (~155mph) both the 3 and S seemed way noisier than a 3L straight-six BMW 7er.

Tons of road noise, tons of wind noise. Although the Teslas had worse tires on them.

Part of the problem with Tesla though is that things like the stock tyres really aren't as good as they should be for a car costing what they do.

Tesla isn't the only one making poor tire choices, the BMW G12 came with awful noisy all season run-flats. At least they were rated for appropriate speeds though.

Given that Tesla isn't even trying to make nice cars the bad tires seem far less surprising.

The Model 3 Performance comes with the excellent Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. No complaints here.

Yeah.. I've been hearing this since the Tesla Roasters came out in 2008. Yet, nothing in the market has yet to compete with the 2012 Model S when it comes to range/performance.

Here's the Porsche Taycan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9kokeyxGU

If you try to do the same in a Model S you'll just overheat it.

> who complains about how loud a Tesla is?

People who have driven in a Mercedes EQC.

I.e. the Mercedes CEO? Also for the other two.... really? Who t.f. wants voice control in their car? Better lights are nice, sure... but it's a minor improvement (most people drive most of the time by day, and even by night, all car lights are "good enough". I paid 2K EUR to get better lights in my car, and they're great when I have to use them, but even I wouldn't have picked my car based on this criteria.... I even hesitated to give the extra money!)

Mercedes has a voice controlled GPS navigator in older C models. It never understood where you want to go and the text input is atrouciously useless, just like the TV on screen keyboards. If you had it, you'd probably ended up using a paper map since it has way better ergonomics.

The EQC also has better fit and finish and is cheaper than the Model X.

Compare UK prices for the EQC: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mercedes-benz/eqc/specs

And the Model X: https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/modelx/design?redirect=no#batter...

> Better lights are nice, sure... but it's a minor improvement

I love my fancy $10k headlights, they're a huge improvement when speeding through euro highways in the middle of the night. There's just nowhere for the cops (or anything else) to hide.

Voice input is very nice, esp for addresses in navigation. Controlling anything other than entertainment? Not helpful.