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Re:The answer to “Will you mentor me?” is no (2010) by Waterluvian on Sunday August 18, 2019 @11:23PM (#20734639)
I love that perspective. To add to it, from personal experience: it really helps to be totally, wildly, embarrassingly ignorant of your incompetence at the start. It softens that part where your work disappoints you, because you don't know better. Now, I don't know if this is actually good advice or even actionable, advice, but I've seen it and experienced it many times and it very much enabled me to move past awfulness.

- My first programs (I thought `super` gave you access to the UI component's hierarchical owner)

- My first music videos (wow super cringey teen stuff)

- My first 3D animations (oh so you're supposed to use "textures"?)

- Why I never got good at guitar (constantly focused on how my whole family had to suffer how awful I was)

All formative experiences I may have never dove so deeply into if I was consciously aware of just how far off the mark I was. I can't even look at any of these examples today because I cringe so hard at myself.

Re:The answer to “Will you mentor me?” is no (2010) by yurishimo on Monday August 19, 2019 @12:28AM (#20734894)
Your guitar story reminded me of my one of my own. My uncle gave me an old crappy guitar for Christmas while they were driving through to visit other relatives. He was a signed musician at the time so he had all sorts of extra instruments laying around that companies would send him just because.

Later that next year for my birthday (today actually, but a few years ago!), my family gave me one of those "Learn Guitar" books with an included DVD. At this point I had been playing for about 8 months and they actually said they had bought it way back in March or April because I was so bad they wanted me to get better for their own sanity. However, they said they almost felt bad giving it to me then because it didn't seem like I needed it anymore.

I had progressed far enough that it didn't sound like terrible screeching anymore and was mostly passable music. Simple chords and basic strumming patterns sure, but music nonetheless. :)

So if you've still got your guitar, I urge you to pull it out and give it another shot. Find some songs you like that are simple and just keep at it. Making music should always be about expressing yourself first and pleasing others second.

Good luck :)

Re:The answer to “Will you mentor me?” is no (2010) by Waterluvian on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:29AM (#20737123)
I've got young kids and I am the captain now. I am guitaring again. They love it and can't possibly judge my horrible rendition of Wheels on the Bus.
Re:The answer to “Will you mentor me?” is no (2010) by sh87 on Monday August 19, 2019 @10:41PM (#20743419)
Happy Birthday ! I had a guitar that my (not a musician) uncle gifted me too. Never stuck with it long enough. Last year (after we moved to another country) I was gifted a Ukelele. My family still recognizes my longing wish for learing to make music this I guess. Thanks for sharing.
Re:The answer to “Will you mentor me?” is no (2010) by SenHeng on Monday August 19, 2019 @01:32AM (#20735131)
Happy birthday!
Re:The answer to “Will you mentor me?” is no (2010) by MaulingMonkey on Monday August 19, 2019 @02:29PM (#20740367)
An alternative to ignorance is to be enthralled by the process. I knew many of my programs weren't great or amazing growing up, but I was too into the puzzle of how programs and programming works to care. The result was, frankly, secondary to the process.

I'm not an amazing piano player, but with a MIDI keyboard and headphones I can gameify it, enjoy the process of practice and learning, measure progress even when it's sometimes hard to see, and do this all even if I'm still skittish about actually performing any of it for others.

With something like art - I have trouble seeing my progress, gamifying it, I have a certain vicious judgement of my own work beyond what I judge the art of others by, and I'm not particularly into the process for it's own sake. I haven't made any progress there since high school!

Re:The answer to “Will you mentor me?” is no (2010) by shostack on Monday August 19, 2019 @11:57AM (#20738881)
I wish I still had my music videos and more of the art I made. I found stuff I created when I was a teenager and younger that I'd totally forgotten about. Things I modeled in software, things I sketched, things I built from Lego, things I wrote, music I made, things I crafted from wood and leather by hand.

I almost got teary eyed thinking about how amazing adult me considered the work of child me and all of the free time and creative energy that came with it. I'd do anything to be able to get that kind of creativity back. But I suspect it was a function of both youth and not having a job that draws upon my mental resources so heavily.