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Re:WeWTF by DoreenMichele on Saturday August 17, 2019 @09:46PM (#20727700)
(Oppressive to the person constantly censoring themselves in the name of PC)

I mostly don't suffer from this issue. It's a genuine concern that if you can't speak certain words, then you can't think certain thoughts and you may not be able to feel your own feelings.

I spent a lot of time in therapy. I feel fairly comfortable with myself.

It's a topic I should perhaps explore more sometime, but I have had a really rough month, I'm still exhausted and I've got a looming deadline, so now is not the time for that.

Re:WeWTF by tripzilch on Sunday August 18, 2019 @09:36AM (#20730044)
> if you can't speak certain words, then you can't think certain thoughts

That's the strong Sapir-Whorf hypothesis and it's not been a serious linguistic theory for nearly about a century now. It's not a concern.

You might have been thinking about the weak Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which is about the much more reasonable idea that linguistic structure merely influences thoughts and decisions. Except that it's such an obvious no-brainer, it's hardly worth mentioning. Also it makes it quite a leap to go from there to being unable to feel your own feelings (again, instead of influencing ones feelings).

(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity )

On the other hand, speaking about being genuine: I personally believe that being PC is about being sensitive and aware of other people's feelings, to genuinely spend the effort to understand why or why not something would be offensive to people. And with understanding, you'll find that your language changes (just like it changes when you become friends with someone). That is really taking the substance over just the style.

And personally, I have found that cultivating this awareness in myself has allowed me to actually think MORE thoughts, and feel MORE feelings. Claiming it does the opposite is not helping. This is a matter of feeling comfortable with the other person's feelings, not about yourself.

Re:WeWTF by DoreenMichele on Sunday August 18, 2019 @09:48AM (#20730109)
Also it makes it quite a leap to go from there to being unable to feel your own feelings (again, instead of influencing ones feelings).

I'm not making some mental leap. I'm describing first-hand experience of things I've had to overcome.

Your experience of life doesn't negate my experience of life.

Re:WeWTF by tripzilch on Sunday August 18, 2019 @04:05PM (#20732496)
My mistake, I thought you were making a general case.
Re:WeWTF by knolax on Sunday August 18, 2019 @12:46AM (#20728287)
> if you can't speak certain words, then you can't think certain thoughts

Are you saying that you're incapable of non-narrative thoughts?

Re:WeWTF by DoreenMichele on Sunday August 18, 2019 @12:48AM (#20728296)
No. I'm saying that an oppressive enough culture, where you cannot express yourself, interferes with your relationship to yourself and with developing better mental models.
Re:WeWTF by knolax on Sunday August 18, 2019 @01:50AM (#20728487)
I don't see why self discovery has to involve external expression. Isn't the whole point to delve inwards?
Re:WeWTF by DoreenMichele on Sunday August 18, 2019 @01:51AM (#20728494)
Without a mirror or other external device, no one can see their own face.

It's a bit like that.