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Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by rjsanders on Friday August 16, 2019 @11:37AM (#20716221)
Why should it matter who made an argument if it is evidence based and sound?
Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by the_snooze on Friday August 16, 2019 @11:50AM (#20716380)
Credibility matters. If you have no credibility with your audience on the topic at hand, then your sound evidence will go unheard. It's not an issue of "should" it matter, but rather that it does matter. That's reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethos#Rhetoric

Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by manigandham on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:08PM (#20717844)
If your credibility is determined by your skin color, that says more about the audience.
Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by the_snooze on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:38PM (#20718200)
Well yeah, it's the audience who gets to determine how credible you are, by whatever (arbitrary and/or misguided) standards they choose.

As someone speaking to an audience, it's your responsibility to determine if it's worth your energy to engage with them. Sometimes it works out even in the most bizarre circumstances. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis

Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by jayventura on Friday August 16, 2019 @12:02PM (#20716518)
Who decides whether or not evidence is based and sound?

During the slave era, white slave owners believed they were doing good for the black man. That this was their optimal role in society.

If you are not the oppressed, you cannot objectively be part of the discussion about whether or not and how the oppressed are being oppressed. It's quite simple. The only thing you can do is help. If you argue against their oppression, you are perpetuating the structural inequality.

Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by Supermancho on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:01PM (#20718483)
In a nutshell, everyone is oppressed, in some way.

You can be oppressed and be an oppressor. There's something to be said for how and why, but weighing them against each other is nebulous. This has been true throughout history. re: israel-palestinian, hmong-vienamese, english-scottish, etc.

> If you are not the oppressed, you cannot objectively be part of the discussion about _whether or not_ ...

I don't find this assertion is sound. There's an element of ideology in there, which I appreciate, but I do not agree on this practical tenet. If it was rephrased or attenuated to a more specific decisioning system (ie the latter part of the statement, is more palatable, albeit also something I don't fully agree to), I would re-examine it.

Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by rjsanders on Friday August 16, 2019 @12:20PM (#20716723)
Genuine question, where have you sourced this line of reasoning from?
Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by jayventura on Friday August 16, 2019 @01:08PM (#20717182)
Look up the concept of "natural slavery".
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Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by dang on Friday August 16, 2019 @01:01PM (#20717118)
Not cool. We've banned this account.
Re:Google Employee Writes Memo About ‘The Burden of Being Bl... by pinkfoot on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:27PM (#20718063)
So, just because some men had a crappy idea — at the same time people also thought the earth was made in a week — every white man who ever lives is now precluded from an opinion. Dear lord.