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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by taurath on Thursday August 15, 2019 @07:28PM (#20710704)
I think it’s on all of us, including all the corporations. We should have a carbon tax to disincentivize mass c02 production - at the moment all the profits are private and all the losses (to the environment) are public. If they want to pay someone who’s planting trees for carbon caps then that’s fine for me. Just solve the damn problem. Who’s standing in the way? Shareholders of the above companies (and by proxy, the lobbyists and politicians). Because protective action doesn’t get them gains. It requires government action.
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by gnopgnip on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:12AM (#20712600)
It is difficult to get people to agree if it means gas and cheeseburgers cost twice as much.
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by gbrown on Thursday August 15, 2019 @07:46PM (#20710819)
It's literally economics 101: externalities, but for some crazy reason in the US it's seen as a leftist anti-capitalist issue.
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by nightski on Thursday August 15, 2019 @07:50PM (#20710840)
Because you are acting like this would punish the company. It might to an extent but in reality consumers would hurt the most. That in my opinion is why it doesn't happen.
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by jeromegv on Thursday August 15, 2019 @11:01PM (#20711793)
Not as much when the carbon tax is tax-neutral. In Canada we started getting back a carbon tax credit. Consumer impact is still there but a lot more mitigated.
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by ako on Friday August 16, 2019 @10:16AM (#20715357)
It’s meant to ‘punish’ consumers: it needs to be painful enough that consumers reduce their consumption, otherwise pollution will not be reduced.
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by nightski on Monday August 19, 2019 @01:41PM (#20739881)
Right but it's not going to punish consumers equally. It will hurt the poor a lot more than the rich imho. Essentially a regressive tax moving the burden for the climate change problem to the poor.
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by omosubi on Thursday August 15, 2019 @08:01PM (#20710905)
The tyranny of the majority :/
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by eanzenberg on Friday August 16, 2019 @01:54AM (#20712503)
Because reducing US emissions to 0 will have no effect on global warming.
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Re:Decrement carbon: Stripe's negative emissions commitment by icebraining on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:21AM (#20712877)
Reducing emissions by 14% will have no impact? I doubt that very much.

And that's just direct emissions; the emissions of other countries can often be attributed to supplying to the US.

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