Re:The Population Bust
by toasterlovin on Thursday August 15, 2019 @05:53AM
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I’d prefer to reserve as much of the country for my own descendants as possible, thanks. That’s what this country is: territory that our ancestors have bestowed upon us so we can have a place to live. We should do the same for our descendants, instead of just giving it away to whoever wants it. The rest of the humans on this planet already have their own countries.
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Today's immigrants are the future other grandparents of your future grandchildren, or great grandparents of great grandchildren. If you doubt it, look a few generations back in your family tree.
Re:The Population Bust
by toasterlovin on Thursday August 15, 2019 @10:27AM
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Nobody needs immigrants to have ancestors for their descendants. However you slice it, immigration increases competition for the future citizens of this country.
I’d prefer to reserve as much of the planet to my own descendants. Immigrants may use more some infrastructure of your country but overpopulation surely use more the planet. By allowing immigration, you increase chances for immigrants to be more educated and therefore reduce the overall birth rate.
Re:The Population Bust
by toasterlovin on Thursday August 15, 2019 @10:54PM
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> By allowing immigration, you increase chances for immigrants to be more educated and therefore reduce the overall birth rate.
How do the people who immigrate here affect the behavior of people in the countries they left behind? Why would they not continue having too many children?
>The rest of the humans on this planet already have their own countries.
Do you not see the historical irony? Your (presumably European) ancestors had their own countries too. So did the inhabitants of the Americas before white people arrived there from 'their own countries'.
I've never understood this argument. How long does a territory need to be occupied for before the natives of that area can call it "their country."
Every country has a starting point, the USA's is just more recent.
Re:The Population Bust
by toasterlovin on Thursday August 15, 2019 @11:09PM
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We can’t undo the past. And, actually, European and African settlement of the Americas is an event that argues in my favor. There would be a lot more Native Americans today if their ancestors had had the ability to maintain territorial integrity. We should not voluntarily resign our descendants to the same fate.