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Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by nicoburns on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @07:15AM (#20694316)
> The best layman explanation I have heard is that extroverts are "recharged" by being around others whereas introverts recharge by being alone

That's a good step 1.

Step 2 is realising that introverts often do get energised by one-on-one or small group socialising, or socialising in a more meaningful way around a real shared interest.

Step 3 is realising that the concept of introversion/extraversion generalises past social interaction to preferences for levels of external interaction / stimulation in general. So for example, some people may not be super-sociable, but may love lot's of external physical stimulation (music/lights/exercise, etc), others may love to be exposed external ideas (or alternatively have a preference to only be exposed to small amounts of these things).

^ This is the notion of introversion/extroversion captured by the MBTI / Jungian Type Theories, where Extraverted Feeling (Fe) roughly function corresponds to the popular notion of extraversion, but there are also Extraverted Sensing (Se), Extraverted Intuition (Ne) and Extraverted Thinking (Te) functions which present differently.

Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by lonelappde on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @08:16AM (#20694681)
Saying that talking about a book is meaningful but talking to a person about their life, is not is immature inferiority-complex bigotry.
Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by nicoburns on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @10:23AM (#20695837)
> Saying that talking about a book is meaningful but talking to a person about their life, is not is immature inferiority-complex bigotry.

I would include talking to a person about their life as meaningful conversation. But lot's of extraverts like to chatter about nothing at all. Like, they literally cannot let there be a silence. (because it helps them think / keeps them stimulated).

To introverts that's infuriating, because they can't think while the chatter is happening, and they are over-stimulated.

Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by logfromblammo on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @11:47AM (#20696745)
I am infuriated when someone starts pushing priority-preserving NULL tokens at me non-stop. It's even more infuriating when I have to do linguistic analysis calculations to reduce all those possible content-carrying strings down to to disappointing priority-preserving NULL tokens.

I love priority-preserving pauses, maybe even with explicit priority-yielding tokens, but there are so many people that just take any pause in the conversation as their opportunity to seize priority and keep it, and this is what produces the culture of babblers and chatterers. Silence is a resource devoured by the tragedy of the commons.

Some people need you to shut up, in order to think their own thoughts. And when they are not allowed to stop and think, they get angry and frustrated with you. So pause. Take a breath. Take another breath. When that silence starts to get uncomfortable for you, that other person is still assembling their meaningful contribution to the conversation into a sentence. Hold it just a few more seconds... aaand... let them speak.

Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by heavenlyblue on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:18PM (#20698379)
I mean, the same people would probably say that trying to imitate a robot in own speech is a sign of not being as intelligent as you think you are.
Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by logfromblammo on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:56PM (#20698774)
But you are not one of those people, and you are not definitely saying that? So what exactly are you saying?
Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by celticmusic on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @09:14AM (#20695148)
I would much rather have a conversation about Liu Cixin's dark forest idea than to learn about someone's snotty kid.

I guess color me immature with an inferiority-complex bigotry.

Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by newswasboring on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @11:18AM (#20696432)
I feel like that is immature. You're implying that a conversation about the kids cannot be pleasurable and informative. I recently moved to an all women team (running joke was that I was a diversity hire) and the kind of things they need to do to prepare for pregnancy blew my mind. When my colleagues talk about their kids asking weird questions and putting their parents in weird situations it's as stimulating a puzzle to solve as any of the philosophical masterbation.
Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by csilverman on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @09:39AM (#20695403)
I agree. I can enjoy both, but I get a particular energy out of discussing ideas. Small talk about one's life or vacation is less interesting/energizing to me.

And that's okay. I'm not sure why this had to involve a sermon on immaturity and—of all things—bigotry.

Re:A Novel Concept: Silent Book Clubs Offer Introverts a Spa... by celticmusic on Monday August 19, 2019 @09:35AM (#20737594)
If you haven't done it, check out wandering earth on netflix, it's based off of a short story by him.

I didn't know that going in and about halfway through I remember thinking China must have a lot of amazing Chinese sci-fi writers because the ideas in the movie reminded me of the vastness of Liu Cixin. Then afterwards I look up more info and find out it's based off of a short story of his.

Of course it is, lol. Great movie.