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Re:Rich Hickey stops Clojure funding appeal from 2011 onwards by masterponomo on Tuesday January 04, 2011 @03:23PM (#2068302)
From what I've seen, Rich does things to end controversies quickly rather than talk them to death. There was a religious war developing in the user group some time ago over licensing terms of products that were developed in Clojure. Rich didn't take a side, as I recall--he simply intervened after a few days and asked people not to carry on this discussion but to focus on technical issues. At least one heavyweight (Jon Harrop) seemed to disappear from the user group upon being asked to cut out the licensing jibber-jabber, but peace was restored.

Given Clojure/core potential earnings and the bigger bang for the buck of corporate sponsorships, requests for individual donations are not worth the ill-will that they apparently cause. I like his techniques for time management and choosing his battles carefully.

Onward with Clojure development!

Re:Rich Hickey stops Clojure funding appeal from 2011 onwards by huwigs on Tuesday January 04, 2011 @04:01PM (#2068446)
As a longtime Lisp observer, I can't say that I've ever seen Jon Harrop conduct himself as a "heavyweight" in forums unrelated to OCaml, Mathematica, or F#.
Re:Rich Hickey stops Clojure funding appeal from 2011 onwards by zaph0d on Wednesday January 05, 2011 @01:27AM (#2070158)
The Jon Harrop who used to hang out on the Clojure list is not the same as Dr. John Harrop who used to advocate F#, OCaml, etc.

I asked him and he said "no relation".

Re:Rich Hickey stops Clojure funding appeal from 2011 onwards by lispm on Wednesday January 05, 2011 @06:12AM (#2070649)
Not really: Jon Harrop is the troll and John Harrop probably not.
Re:Rich Hickey stops Clojure funding appeal from 2011 onwards by masterponomo on Wednesday January 05, 2011 @08:05AM (#2070826)
Ah, my mistake, I didn't notice the difference in name spelling. It was indeed John Harrop, not Jon Harrop, who appeared to vanish from Clojure after the licensing discussion. I should have made my point without reference to individuals.
Re:Rich Hickey stops Clojure funding appeal from 2011 onwards by masterponomo on Tuesday January 04, 2011 @06:34PM (#2069050)
"heavyweight" was my opinion of him based on his education, demonstrated ability, and publications, not anything to do with his way of representing himself. I found his comments very interesting, informed as they were by his extensive work in other languages.
Re:Rich Hickey stops Clojure funding appeal from 2011 onwards by lispm on Tuesday January 04, 2011 @07:08PM (#2069178)
Jon Harrop is well known for his spamming work in Lisp and Haskell communities.
Re:Rich Hickey stops Clojure funding appeal from 2011 onwards by zaph0d on Wednesday January 05, 2011 @01:28AM (#2070161)
Please see my reply to grandparent.