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Re:Where will ‘garage orphans’ charge electric cars? by chrisseaton on Monday August 12, 2019 @04:22PM (#20679554)
> I live in a 100 year old apartment

Keeping in mind '100 years old' sounds dramatic but is now as recent as 1919, which doesn't sound that old when you write it out! That's about a fifth of the housing stock in the UK I believe. Obviously, almost none of these houses have garages.

I wonder if local governments could install plugs under little hatches like they use for stop cocks all the way down residential roads.

https://stock.adobe.com/be_en/images/blue-painted-water-stop...

Re:Where will ‘garage orphans’ charge electric cars? by clouddrover on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:11PM (#20681511)
London is putting charging points in street lamps:

https://www.electrive.com/2018/08/21/char-gy-new-player-on-l...

Re:Where will ‘garage orphans’ charge electric cars? by fyfy18 on Monday August 12, 2019 @09:55PM (#20682113)
European countries have a much easier time than the US in this regard due to 220V mains voltage. Even with a standard outlet you can fully recharge a Tesla overnight.
Re:Where will ‘garage orphans’ charge electric cars? by esotericn on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @02:08AM (#20683206)
> Even with a standard outlet you can fully recharge a Tesla overnight.

Nah. 230V 10A is about 2kW and 15A about 3kW.

More realistically it's 24h for a 20-80% charge.

That said, 2kW is a 10kmh charge, so "overnight" (let's say 12 hours) you can do a 60km commute from a regular socket.

Re:Where will ‘garage orphans’ charge electric cars? by Symbiote on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @04:05AM (#20683701)
It's at least fairly cheap to install a standard industrial outlet (single phase, or three phase if the house supply has it -- this varies in Europe). That looks to be what older/cheaper street lamp installations have -- a domestic outlet isn't appropriate for outdoor use anyway.

That gets 7kW or more.

From https://www.spiritenergy.co.uk/kb-ev-understanding-electric-... :

> If you have a standard domestic single phase (230V) supply, you won't be able to achieve a charging rate of more than 7.4kW. Even with a standard commercial 3 phase connection, the power rating for AC charging is limited to 22kW.

22kW is plenty, and e.g. my apartment in Denmark has a three-phase 40A supply, so houses surely have more than this.

Re:Where will ‘garage orphans’ charge electric cars? by fyfy18 on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:49AM (#20712752)
Sorry "fully" was the wrong word here:

Standard European wall outlets (Type E & F) are 230V and 16A, so that gives you 3.7kW. At that rate, the Model 3 can charge at 22km/h [0].

So you could charge 20% - 80% (220km of range added) in 10 hours overnight. Even if your "overnight" time is a little shorter, that is still going to be enough for most commutes.

[0] https://www.tesla.com/de_DE/support/home-charging-installati...

Re:Where will ‘garage orphans’ charge electric cars? by beardyw on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @11:50AM (#20686967)
Taking their 78% figure I get 6.8 million people who would need one. I don't think I would call 1,150 even a toe in the water.
Re:Where will ‘garage orphans’ charge electric cars? by clouddrover on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @10:58PM (#20692363)
There are 2.6 million cars in London and only 54% of households have a car:

http://content.tfl.gov.uk/technical-note-12-how-many-cars-ar...

So the toe is bigger than you think it is.