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Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by TazeTSchnitzel on Saturday August 10, 2019 @06:33AM (#20661274)
Key word “supported”. AMD's consumer chips have ECC enabled but it is not validated.
Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by tempguy9999 on Saturday August 10, 2019 @11:26AM (#20662563)
what does enabled but not validated mean?
Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by theevilsharpie on Saturday August 10, 2019 @12:58PM (#20663166)
ECC DRAM support is physically present in the chip, and will work if the motherboard supports it, but it's _up_ to the motherboard to support it.

Some Ryzen motherboards are marketed explicitly as having ECC DRAM support (e.g., ASRock Rack X470D4U, ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE).

Other Ryzen motherboards have ECC DRAM support, but they don't advertise it as a feature for one reason or another (most of ASRock's motherboard lineup, many mid-range ASUS motherboards, possibly others).

Still others completely lack ECC support (many low-end boards, as well as high-end gaming-focused boards).

> what does enabled but not validated mean?

Basically, it means that it's optional. As described above, ECC can work or not work depending on which specific motherboard you get, and it's up to the system integrator to choose a motherboard compatible with ECC if that's a desired feature.

That's as opposed to "validated" ECC support in, say, AMD's Threadripper platform. In that case, if a company builds and markets a motherboard as compatible with Threadripper, and it lacks ECC support, they can expect to receive a nasty letter from AMD's legal team.

Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by tsuraan on Saturday August 10, 2019 @01:19PM (#20663288)
> That's as opposed to "validated" ECC support in, say, AMD's Threadripper platform. In that case, if a company builds and markets a motherboard as compatible with Threadripper, and it lacks ECC support, they can expect to receive a nasty letter from AMD's legal team.

Are you sure about that? I'm only asking because the System76 Threadripper Thelio[0] doesn't support ECC (according to the response I received from their support people). Their response was actually that "Threadripper and our motherboard do not offer ECC" (TR obviously does support it though), but is it the case that they're actually contractually obligated to support ECC?

[0] - https://system76.com/cart/configure/thelio-major-r1

Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by theevilsharpie on Sunday August 11, 2019 @02:56AM (#20666762)
> I'm only asking because the System76 Threadripper Thelio[0] doesn't support ECC

The Thelio Major uses a Gigabyte X399 Designare EX motherboard, which has ECC DRAM support. System76 may not offer or support ECC DRAM as an option, but you can add it yourself if you're so inclined.

Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by tsuraan on Sunday August 11, 2019 @11:56AM (#20668689)
Okay, that's actually great to know. Thanks!
Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by TazeTSchnitzel on Saturday August 10, 2019 @02:55PM (#20663869)
It's EPYC that has ECC. Threadripper is for enthusiasts, not the professional market.
Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by fgonzag on Saturday August 10, 2019 @05:46PM (#20664683)
I'm running ECC memory on my R1700X... I'm fairly sure TR also has ECC memory. In fact, all of AMDs offerings except for APUs have ECC enabled, but AMD does not force motherboard manufacturers to implement it.
Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by techntoke on Saturday August 10, 2019 @04:57PM (#20664475)
Threadripper and many Ryzen chips support ECC as well, and the professional market can use either and still be professionals.
Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by namibj on Saturday August 10, 2019 @07:27PM (#20665170)
EPYC has registered memory. While ECC is (traditionally) more common in RDIMMs, it's also available in UDIMMs.
Re:EPYC SAP-SD 2-tier benchmark results by aarongolliver on Saturday August 10, 2019 @12:05PM (#20662806)
Basically that you can't return the chip to AMD if ecc doesn't work.