Re:Gondor - effortless production Django hosting
by unoti on Monday January 03, 2011 @10:31PM
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Things that may be interesting bullet points:
* How load balancing is handled. Load balancing isn't just for ultra high volume sites that need multiple machines. The main use case I have for load balancing has to do with reliability, particularly when it's time to do OS patches. Most of my projects are games that have people from around the world hammering on them. It's become impossible to find a good time of day to bring things down for a couple of minutes while I reboot after an OS patch or upgrade how much memory a machine has.
* Server configuration. Automatically handling the webserver configuration is a great value to the customers. But it's helpful to know if it's deployed in a multi-threaded way like Apache MPM-Worker vs MPM-Prefork.
* Database replication, and/or automated data backup. How it works, and how you can restore.
I'm currently using Rackspace for all my stuff, and liking it. But I'm not really looking forward to getting into HA-Proxy, and figuring out how to get the keep-alives and so on configured properly. Perhaps I should have just used amazon, with their dizzying array of loadbalancing and database options. The thing that has kept me away, though, is the complexity involved in learning all of their product offerings and my complete inability to understand how much it'll cost. (It's like it'll be easy to figure out how much it'll cost after you've been live for a while. With Rackspace, on the other hand, it was comparatively straightforward.) I think there's a sweet spot opportunity available for hosting that is simultaneously easy to understand, load balanced, and backed up/replicated.
Re:Gondor - effortless production Django hosting
by jtauber on Monday January 03, 2011 @09:35PM
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We're still working that out. Our existing clients are generally production sites requiring a dedicated stack. It will take longer to work out what our pricing on the lower-end will be.
Re:Gondor - effortless production Django hosting
by StavrosK on Monday January 03, 2011 @10:44PM
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Hmm, if you're offering Solr and redis, you could be a good host for hosting historious. How do you handle scaling, and where's my server (where do I store files, how do I access things)?
Re:Gondor - effortless production Django hosting
by sueders100 on Monday January 03, 2011 @10:30PM
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This is at least the third Django specific hosting provider I've seen recently. All of them are also happen to be in private beta. Do you guys do guys offer anything different from Djangy, at this point?
Re:Gondor - effortless production Django hosting
by jtauber on Monday January 03, 2011 @10:47PM
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We are productizing an existing hosting infrastructure that is already used for production sites. I don't know if the other offerings are coming out of established infrastructure or not.
* How load balancing is handled. Load balancing isn't just for ultra high volume sites that need multiple machines. The main use case I have for load balancing has to do with reliability, particularly when it's time to do OS patches. Most of my projects are games that have people from around the world hammering on them. It's become impossible to find a good time of day to bring things down for a couple of minutes while I reboot after an OS patch or upgrade how much memory a machine has.
* Server configuration. Automatically handling the webserver configuration is a great value to the customers. But it's helpful to know if it's deployed in a multi-threaded way like Apache MPM-Worker vs MPM-Prefork.
* Database replication, and/or automated data backup. How it works, and how you can restore.
I'm currently using Rackspace for all my stuff, and liking it. But I'm not really looking forward to getting into HA-Proxy, and figuring out how to get the keep-alives and so on configured properly. Perhaps I should have just used amazon, with their dizzying array of loadbalancing and database options. The thing that has kept me away, though, is the complexity involved in learning all of their product offerings and my complete inability to understand how much it'll cost. (It's like it'll be easy to figure out how much it'll cost after you've been live for a while. With Rackspace, on the other hand, it was comparatively straightforward.) I think there's a sweet spot opportunity available for hosting that is simultaneously easy to understand, load balanced, and backed up/replicated.
https://github.com/mathgladiator/cmdfu
http://blog.mathgladiator.com/2011/01/cmdfu-roll-your-own-he...
Anyone know what the pricing may be on this?
Fortunately, this ain't Mordor.