Racket: Lisp for Learning

Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by AlexeyBrin on Thursday August 08, 2019 @10:26AM (#20644872)

Given the Racket2 possible massive syntax changes it seems that using JavaScript was a better choice for a commercial project. That being said I very much prefer Racket to JavaScript for personal/hobby projects.

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by JoelMcCracken on Thursday August 08, 2019 @11:40AM (#20645527)

Very much an overreaction. The whole point of Racket is to support multiple syntaxes. The idea that a future Racket would NOT support the current syntax seems absurd.

But really there are lots of other, better reasons to use JS over Racket for a major commercial project, which may or may not be actually a good call, but a new proposed syntax is not one of them.

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by traderjane on Thursday August 08, 2019 @11:46AM (#20645571)

But where will the culture of Racket go? How will the educational texts, documentation, and general conversations go?

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by JoelMcCracken on Thursday August 08, 2019 @12:00PM (#20645705)

Why does the same conversation not come up when discussing typed racket? Is the introduction of a static type system really less culture-shaking than surface syntax?

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by gus_massa on Thursday August 08, 2019 @12:57PM (#20646223)

The name "racket2" is too strong.

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by Tomte on Thursday August 08, 2019 @03:28PM (#20647748)

I suppose because that's a niche dialect, an experiment if you will, not the anointed successor.

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by dmix on Thursday August 08, 2019 @11:54AM (#20645655)

They could do an Elixir style fork instead? Although a pure syntax change isn’t as significant as what Elixir changed.

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by wtetzner on Thursday August 08, 2019 @10:49AM (#20645084)

I think it would have been fine based on https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/racket-users/HiC7z3A...

> No matter how Racket evolves, the community is committed

> to preserving what we have achieved: today's `#lang racket`

> programs will run in the future, and today's

> `#lang racket` modules can be used in future Racket programs.

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by aswanson on Thursday August 08, 2019 @10:34AM (#20644957)

Yeah. But Racket seems so much cooler.

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Re:Racket: Lisp for Learning by AlexeyBrin on Thursday August 08, 2019 @10:39AM (#20644999)

Racket really is a nice language, we'll see if/how the situation changes once the Racket2 situation is clarified.

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