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Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by gen220 on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:41PM (#20638773)
I know this was probably meant as tongue-in-cheek, but I think this is a powerful idea.

I think it should be a more widespread idea that people should aim to leave a company with a net-negative `cloc` contribution.

Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by majewsky on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:59PM (#20640091)
The problem is, even if you try to contribute negative LOC, every other week your boss/customer/PM sees a new feature in their dreams or hears about a new technology at a conference and demands you put it in there right now.

Every system that I've built so far has started out with a simple, obvious set of rules (both new systems and replacements for old systems). Then the customer/PM/whatever notices just one more edge case. And another. And another. And another. The truth is that reality is frustratingly complicated. Especially if the reality you're mapping contains the internal bureaucracies of large companies.

Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by johnchristopher on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:01PM (#20639016)
Actually, that's a well know mantra: the best code is no code.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by BubRoss on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:46PM (#20639482)
People don't know what that means though. It is only helpful after explaining to shoot for deeper yet simpler rules for your system along with identifying what can be separated from execution as static data.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by Frost1x on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @07:42PM (#20640403)
Part of that mantra also falls under problem solving in general. Not every solution needs a technology solution. Sometimes fixes can be made in processes or policy in general. Many jump to technology solutions too quickly and I feel this is lazy and often passing responsibility for someone else to fix a situation.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by johnchristopher on Thursday August 08, 2019 @02:23AM (#20642300)
Yep, I can see how beginners or god-level guru could turn that into a thousand characters one-liner.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by keithnz on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:29PM (#20639321)
no code is also the fastest thing you can do!
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by jtms on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:03PM (#20639039)
Yes. Deleting code is my favorite type of programming.