What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier

Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by jcampbell1 on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:38AM (#20632917)

"The UC Libraries do not endorse the use of Sci-Hub for article access.”30 As the UC Berkeley university librarian said in a published interview, “we are unequivocal: it is our understanding (though we are not attorneys!) that Sci-Hub is in violation of U.S. copyright law. We will not advise nor help anyone to use it"

That is probably the best endorsing non-endorcement I have read. It never says they discourage SciHub and suggests only SciHub is breaking copyright law.

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by Iv on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:03AM (#20633025)

At one point, that's a coward's stance.

Alexandra Elbakyan's contribution to scientific research at this stage is probably higher than any university's library.

Recognize that everyone uses it because none of the legal options are acceptable. Say it and urge a long overdue change in copyright laws.

It is abnormal that Elbakyan is the outlaw and Elsevier the respectable institution here.

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by dtech on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:06AM (#20633034)

Endorsing a US-law breaking site like SciHub could place them on the hook for legal repercussions.

This non-endorsement endorsement achieves the same goals without the above liability.

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by Iv on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:13AM (#20633061)

Meanwhile, a courageous girl broke some laws with no gain for her, because she thought research was important.

If the 10 biggest university libraries endorsed sci-hub, yeah, there could be legal repercussions but that could also move the lines much more than this timid non-endorsement endorsement.

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by malms on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:42AM (#20633179)

She's a superstar now, could make money from ad or bribes with no personal risk. I would have done the same

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by Iv on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @09:49PM (#20641101)

Yeah, right, no personal risks except being sued out of existence if she ever attempts that in any country that implements copyright laws.

Haven't we learned anything from Aaron Swartz?

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by inflatableDodo on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:41AM (#20633479)

>It is abnormal that Elbakyan is the outlaw and Elsevier the respectable institution here.

Rather than abnormal, is an archetype by this point, given the case is viewed almost universally as a Robin Hood vs Sheriff of Nottingham kind of a thing.

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by buboard on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @07:47PM (#20640430)

Everyone uses sci hub, i dont even think it needs advertising. It is used even more by people who legally have access to subscriptions[1]. I prefer it too - it is faster than the often horribly slow official sites

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/whos-downloading-pir...

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:39AM (#20633167)

They're officially not endorsing Sci-Hub, but they're sure to repeatedly call the service they're not endorsing by name on multiple pages.

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