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Re:Ask HN: Do you like HN's karma system? by p1esk on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @04:41PM (#20629383)
1. Separate submissions karma and comments karma. It's very easy to accumulate a lot of karma by submitting an article on some hot topic. This karma should be a lot less valuable than karma earned through writing high quality comments.

2. Limited number of upvotes/downvotes, or downvotes substracting your own karma (perhaps not 1:1).

3. Mandatory justifications for downvotes (e.g. choose from dropdown menu), with this information publicly visible for each comment.

Re:Ask HN: Do you like HN's karma system? by nullwasamistake on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @07:19PM (#20630632)
I agree with #1. It's super easy to write a blog post that gets more upvotes than any comment ever will. If most HN readers are like me, I immediately go to comments before checking out the article. The current karma system encourages posts over comments, while comments are actually the vast majority of reason we visit HN. Comments are the community, especially in recent years where ask and show hn posts rarely breach first page :'( . Weighting non-article posts higher would achieve similar, bringing back importance of community over posting stuff.

I also agree with #2, a single unpopular comment can ruin your karma, and seems to rapidly contribute to a rate limiter that impedes your ability to interact with the site. I tend to comment on spurts when I've got a bunch of free time. It's common to have a comment downvoted below 0 and end up with "you're doing that too fast" rate limiting. I'm not 100% that downvoted comments are the cause, but it seems likely.

I disagree with #3. The few mods HN has already work hard. I don't think we should give them more to read. I would rather remove downvotes, I don't see a point besides encouraging echo chamber mentality

Re:Ask HN: Do you like HN's karma system? by Fjolsvith on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @11:30PM (#20631772)
> If most HN readers are like me, I immediately go to comments before checking out the article.

And what do you do if most HN readers aren't like you?

But seriously, for number 3, what if the tallies for the reasons for downvotes are visible to the comment poster, as a form of feedback for that person?

Re:Ask HN: Do you like HN's karma system? by muzani on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @12:58AM (#20632085)
To my understanding, submissions don't give any karma at all.
Re:Ask HN: Do you like HN's karma system? by p1esk on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @02:29AM (#20632397)
About half of my karma is from ~10 submissions. The other half is from ~1000 comments.