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Re:Being basic as a virtue by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @01:21PM (#20627333)
Yeah, let's entrust the communal cattle to whatever amateurs feel like being herdsmen today. And let's entrust the food supply to amateur hunters and fishermen. What could go wrong?

That is a spectacularly impractical idea.

Re:Being basic as a virtue by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @02:31PM (#20628038)
>Yeah, let's entrust the communal cattle to whatever amateurs feel like being herdsmen today. And let's entrust the food supply to amateur hunters and fishermen. What could go wrong?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward#Consequence...

Re:Being basic as a virtue by yellowapple on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @05:04PM (#20629615)
In fairness, the Great Leap Forward (reportedly, at least per that article) happened less because of the lack of food available nationally and more because it got stockpiled and harshly rationed to benefit the Communist Party elite and punish political dissidents.
Re:Being basic as a virtue by coldtea on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @02:04PM (#20627790)
>Yeah, let's entrust the communal cattle to whatever amateurs feel like being herdsmen today. And let's entrust the food supply to amateur hunters and fishermen. What could go wrong?

Compared to modern mass-scale industrial stock-farming killing the planet? Nothing really...

Re:Being basic as a virtue by esoterica on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @02:53PM (#20628283)
Industrial farming is the reason why you’ve never gone hungry before. In the good old days there would be a bad harvest every so many years and a substantial fraction of the population would starve to death in the ensuing famine.
Re:Being basic as a virtue by coldtea on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @03:26PM (#20628591)
>Industrial farming is the reason why you’ve never gone hungry before.

Depends on where you live (and most of current living where one can't make food and wouldn't survive a shortage has been enabled by "industrial farming" and other developments - e.g. enabling deserts cities in Nevada).

In my case, we have had hens, pigs, turkeys, olives, grapes, tomatoes, cucumbers, watermelons, oranges, figs, corn, berries, potatoes, and several other fruits and vegetables besides at the house at home. And this wasn't uncommon in my between ~150K strong place of birth (now I live in a much larger city), almost every family had such.

>In the good old days there would be a bad harvest every so many years and a substantial fraction of the population would starve to death in the ensuing famine.

We've had techniques to survive bad harvests, including long term storage, canned goods, saline storage, dried goods (from nuts to figs and salami), and so on, for millennia, and I don't remember any famines in my here parts (much less a "substantial fraction of the population starving to death"). Then there's always trade, which we also have had for quite a while.

The worst famines are not caused by bad harvests, they are either due to political reasons (from the Irish potato famine, to the 80s Ethiopian one, both caused by bad policies) or poor distribution/inequality (while food exists).

Re:Being basic as a virtue by KONAir on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @03:54PM (#20628877)
While you are correct on your own scale I don't think you truly appreciate the scale whole planet depends on industrial farming.
Re:Being basic as a virtue by yellowapple on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @04:51PM (#20629503)
> e.g. enabling deserts cities in Nevada

That's more about water than food per se, though they go hand in hand.

It indeed does help that nearly all major Nevadan cities (and the vast majority of Nevadans, in turn) happen to be near the border between Nevada and one of the world's primary agricultural powerhouses, though.