Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by marble-drink on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @04:58AM (#20623473)

You just can't compare commuting on time alone. If you commute by car then 100% of that time is spent sitting down either driving or stuck in traffic. If you commute by public transport then maybe 50% of the time is spent reading, and 50% is spent walking. If you commute by bicycle then 100% of the time is spent cycling.

It's a shame that study only shows a mean aggregate. I'd be interested to see the raw distribution in commute times. Just anecdotally I've known many people in the UK who spend only ten minutes "commuting" to work each day. That rarely seems to be possible in the US from what I've seen.

But, yes, European people don't understand the American way of life. The amount of waste and unsustainable consumption would shock them to the core.

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Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by bluGill on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @09:44AM (#20625071)

I get carsick when I try to read on the bus. My time this morning was 50% walking, and 50% staring out the window at nothing.

It is worth it to not have to drive, but the car is faster by far at no loss.

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Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by dnate on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @02:52PM (#20628272)

> at no loss

Lets agree to disagree

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Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by mymythisisthis on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @08:12AM (#20624400)

You're right, mean aggregates don't mean much in this situation. The USA is too diverse of a country. NYC people commute by subway, and walking. Sure it's a long commute but you have ample opportunity to stop and do other things on the way home. If you live in Montana, you can commute home by car, in 10 minutes. But in Montana you are stuck at home, once you get there. What is needed is a 'happiness of commute' index.

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Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by hcurtiss on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @04:01PM (#20628937)

For what it’s worth, there is plenty “to do” in those places too. I’m not sure what you mean by “stuck” — maybe your interests are different, but for those who like fishing after work, hiking a remote mountain, playing fetch with the dogs in a big field, or swimming in uncrowded streams — it’s a pretty awesome life. Sure it requires a car. At least to me it’s totally worth it.

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Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by agent008t on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @06:45AM (#20623981)

If you commute by public transport then 90% of the time is spent packed like a sardine in a train or a bus, often with no air conditioning.

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Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by fl0wenol on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @05:09AM (#20623534)

Commuting in cars is why Audible (and their sponsorships) is single-handedly propping up Youtube content creators.

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