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Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by dwd on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @03:04AM (#20622860)
Not sure why you're getting down-voted as having people talking (often loudly) on their phone on public transport makes it unpleasant for everyone else. I try and save calls for the car part of my commute, but then get accused of only calling cause I have nothing better to do...

You do appreciated the relative silence (no one on their phone or talking above a whisper) on trains in Japan.

Brisbane trains on the other hand - you need to wear noise-cancelling headphones (music optional) to block out other people's conversations - even in the quiet carriages.

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by arkh on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @03:22AM (#20622950)
> Not sure why you're getting down-voted

Maybe because just speaking on the phone in traffic makes a lot less attentive so you're prone to create accidents.

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by dwd on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @03:59AM (#20623170)
I would consider talking hands-free (if you're holding a phone you deserve to lose your license) no more distracting than listening to music.

There are worst things like eating or talking to someone else in the car. (look at the road not the person when you're talking)

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by arkh on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @05:00AM (#20623483)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_and_driving_safe...

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2008-18024-008

>The results indicate that passenger conversations differ from cell phone conversations because the surrounding traffic not only becomes a topic of the conversation, helping driver and passenger to share situation awareness, but the driving condition also has a direct influence on the complexity of the conversation, thereby mitigating the potential negative effects of a conversation on driving.

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by dwd on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @06:50AM (#20624008)
Thanks for the links, learnt something new. The bit about the cognitive load preparing to speak or speaking rather than passive listening was interesting.

Yes, when talking to someone in the car they should be aware of the traffic and pause the conversation, where you have to tell the person on the other end of the phone that you need to go.

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by pferde on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @04:52AM (#20623446)
Listening to music is passive (yes, even if you happen to be singing along, as you're just parroting memorized lyrics), whereas during a phone call, you have to focus on what the other party is saying, and formulate sentences to answer them.

That affects your attention on driving.

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by nraynaud on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @04:40AM (#20623385)
actually it is and that has been tested. People on the phone drive more or less like drunk people. It's because of brain engagement.
Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by _nalply on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @04:39AM (#20623378)
Just phoning, even hands-free, is distracting.
Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by tremon on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @06:07AM (#20623811)
That doesn't seem like a good reason to receive downvotes.