Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service
by merpnderp on Monday August 05, 2019 @04:53PM
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Your last point seems spot on. The only way to get rid of nazis is to change their minds so they are no longer nazis. It should have been easy to show him that skin color doesn't determine culture or politics and that his actions were going to do nothing but drastically weaken his cause.
Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service
by krustyburger on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:57PM
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I can think of at least one other way to get rid of Nazis, as depicted in the Quentin Tarantino film Inglorious Basterds.
Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service
by Renevith on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:42PM
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"You don't get less hate; you just bury it underground and give them they feeling like they're being persecuted. It will make the situation worse, not better."
I think the recent rise in white supremacist violence fueled by viral media on mainstream platforms like Youtube and Twitter is a pretty strong argument against this belief. Any content on such large and familiar platforms gets to borrow some sense of legitimacy, and people who consume the content have some plausible deniability. Furthermore, algorithms that favor "engagement" create the exact constrained hate-filled extremist communities you are picturing... but then actively draw users into them from the rest of the platform!
http://facebook.com/l.php?u=https://www.wsj.com/articles/how...
Having this content "above ground" is truly leading to more hate, not just making the existing hate more visible.
But going back to the above post: at one time homosexuality was considered this abhorred plague, just has bad as modern day Neo-Nazism and white supremacy. So who decides what is and isn't acceptable speech?
When you start closing down those roads, you easily squeeze out any descent or ability to form new moral ideas.
In the case of 8chan, you're spreading these people to even more constrained services that amplify their view. You don't get less hate; you just bury it underground and give them they feeling like they're being persecuted. It will make the situation worse, not better.