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Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by King-Aaron on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:27PM (#20610628)
> They are practically a utility.

LOL. They are not.

Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by SheinhardtWigCo on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:44PM (#20610732)
They kinda are. DDoS protection is only viable at massive scale, but is table stakes for any website with content that someone out there might find objectionable.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by ggggtez on Sunday August 04, 2019 @11:05PM (#20610847)
E-mail isn't even a utility.

Please educate yourself on the law here. Most everyone in tech wants the internet to be a utility, but it's not. An individual internet company's product offering is definitely not a utility.

Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by kelnos on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:32AM (#20612053)
There are plenty of other companies out there that provide DDoS protection. If they can't find even one that will host them, perhaps they might want to consider the possibility that their content is reprehensible and there's a reason no one wants to do business with them.

If Cloudflare was the only game in town (or close to it), I might be more sympathetic to this argument, but... they're not. Not even close.

Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by voidwtf on Sunday August 04, 2019 @11:06PM (#20610856)
Many other providers provide DDoS protection. Just not for free. Let them go to OVH, Azure, etc....
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by ryanlol on Monday August 05, 2019 @04:14AM (#20612236)
lol.

There are lots of providers with massive DDoS protection capacity specializing in hosting illegal or otherwise questionable content, they just charge more than cloudflare.

Botnet C&Cs, cybercrime forums and card shops all need hosting and face massive attacks. Somehow I never hear the operators of those complaining.

Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by 9HZZRfNlpR on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:01AM (#20612493)
They mainly use cloudflare. There have been a lot of discussions over it and also criticism.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by Taniwha on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:26AM (#20612603)
but DDoS protection is not speech - it more lets one shout in a loud room - as people keep reminding us you have a right to your speech, but no right to be heard
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by colejohnson66 on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:31PM (#20610650)
Then when would they become one?
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by King-Aaron on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:37PM (#20610686)
I dunno, when you need cloud storage to live. In the same way you need water, power, gas, and these days communication (ISP, etc). But hosting your files is not crucial to your survival I don't believe.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by busymom0 on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:46PM (#20610744)
You don't need ISP to be able to live. Also CloudFlare is NOT hosting them. They were the CDN, content delivery network. They are the messenger which carries the message. They shouldn't be deciding whose message they want to carry. They are forgetting the "don't shoot the messenger" saying.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by ebg13 on Sunday August 04, 2019 @11:24PM (#20610959)
> They shouldn't be deciding whose message they want to carry

Being a messenger doesn't require being amoral.

Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by root_axis on Monday August 05, 2019 @12:55AM (#20611386)
> They shouldn't be deciding whose message they want to carry.

Why? There is no reason they should be forced to host content they find objectionable.