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Re:“Awakenings” in Advanced Dementia Patients Hint at Untapp... by buro9 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @05:48AM (#20599534)
This makes me think of the lucidity I witnessed in the people I knew who later committed suicide.

In the hours, days, and sometimes weeks before suicide, their depression was gone, their insular thoughts vanish, and a deep peacefulness and a period of lucidity that exceeds any capability for such wisdom and thoughtfulness beforehand was visible.

I dislike having seen enough to spot this pattern.

Re:“Awakenings” in Advanced Dementia Patients Hint at Untapp... by k__ on Saturday August 03, 2019 @07:24AM (#20599847)
This is, in fact, a big problem in psychiatries.

Getting depressed people out of their depression without them killing themselves.

Often people have grave psychological problems that make their lifes hell, but also prevent them from suicide.

When they get their motivation and energy back, they use it to make save they don't fall back.

Re:“Awakenings” in Advanced Dementia Patients Hint at Untapp... by tinco on Saturday August 03, 2019 @06:04AM (#20599579)
Maybe that lucidity was the final push for them. To experience the peacefulness they might always enjoy were they healthy, and then having to go back to the misery of their affliction after.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Re:“Awakenings” in Advanced Dementia Patients Hint at Untapp... by est31 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @07:29AM (#20599861)
Robert Sapolsky described it this way [1]:

> You get someone who is severely depressed, like to the point of hospitalization, and when they are absolutely crippled with psychomotor retardation, that's not when you worry about suicide.

> This is someone who's having enough trouble getting out of bed and getting dressed each day. They're not going to figure out how to shred the hospital mattress and make a noose out of it.

> Where you've got your problems is when somebody begins to get better from a severe depression. When they're starting to come out, that's where the psychomotor retardation relieves enough that suddenly they've got the energy to do something catastrophic. That's when people are on suicide watches (when you have clinicians who are oriented well).

[1]: https://youtu.be/NOAgplgTxfc?t=514

Re:“Awakenings” in Advanced Dementia Patients Hint at Untapp... by jobigoud on Saturday August 03, 2019 @07:16AM (#20599817)
Or maybe it is that period of lucidity that enabled them to plan the act.
Re:“Awakenings” in Advanced Dementia Patients Hint at Untapp... by arpa on Saturday August 03, 2019 @05:54AM (#20599552)
It also makes me think of late Collin Willsons' "mind parasites"... i wonder if he also had seen the pattern.