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Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by Swizec on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @04:19PM (#20568698)
I watch porn. Like everybody else on the planet.

Why hide something so mundane? It’s like pretending you don’t poop. We all know you poop. You’re human.

Reminds me of a failed study I read about. Researchers wanted to look into the effects of porn and couldn’t find a big enough control group. There simply aren’t enough people who don’t watch porn to make the study viable.

PS: in terms of malware it’s religious sites you gotta worry about. https://www.pcworld.com/article/254694/religious_sites_carry...

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by NeedMoreTea on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @04:23PM (#20568734)
I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though.

They're both something many/most people don't like to advertise. Maybe they'd be even less happy to have details of either habit known. You might think that's silly, but it's far from unusual, it's the norm.

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by ggg3 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @05:31PM (#20569407)
your analogy is off. and the suggestion to use VPN is outright counterproductive.

people close the bathroom door when they poop. I guess they also close the door when they whatch porn.

using a vpn is akin to (car analogy time) trying to using a rental car while in public. you actually expose yourself to the rental company, who might be shadier than the people at the place you're showing up at, who can still see you trhu the window (analogy for your 3rd party cookies)

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by mlthoughts2018 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @08:27PM (#20570619)
“might be shadier” is a big part of it... many vpn services are fairly well vetted and it’s known they don’t maintain traffic logs, in addition to staking their whole business reputation on a malicious lie if even a whiff became public, with lots of media & security scrutiny

Just like with many car rebtal companies.. very trustworthy and staking their reuptation on not renting you a car that breaks down, etc.

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by ggg3 on Wednesday July 31, 2019 @05:46PM (#20578899)
even if thats is true, and let's assume it is, you are adding yet another bunch of ISP, networks, nation states laws into the original mix. That might not work out in your favour.

not to mention people. no matter how reputable the car renter is, it is still hiring a minimum wage clerk who will handle all your documents and credit card.

my little research suggests the opposite

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by mlthoughts2018 on Wednesday July 31, 2019 @06:54PM (#20579449)
This doesn’t make sense to me at all. Can you clarify what point this is intended to make?
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by ggg3 on Friday August 02, 2019 @11:51PM (#20598566)
you do not trust layer X. so you add layer A, B, C, Y and Z. none have more merits to be more trustworthy than X. You are downgrading your total network trust by adding vpns you do not control fully.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by isostatic on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @05:30PM (#20569400)
> I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though.

Many public restrooms in the U.S. barely have a door, and if they do it is so high off the ground and so short it barely offers any privacy at all

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by ctrl-j on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @05:43PM (#20569511)
And in restrooms like that, I rarely poop. Only if necessary.

I'm pretty sure the lack of privacy in US public restrooms stems from illicit use and loss prevention. Not a cultural norm of acceptance of pooping.

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by Fnoord on Thursday August 01, 2019 @03:26AM (#20581744)
Why not? Are you so ashamed your your body? The worst thing I can imagine is something involving cameras. But that would be probably prosecutable.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by zik on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:35PM (#20571520)
I hope that some day the US will join the civilised world in banning that atrocity.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by Swizec on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @04:29PM (#20568796)
Yeah but I still bring my personal tracking device to the bathroom. How else am I supposed to read memes?

Which brings us to an interesting point. We all want immediate privacy right? Close the door when watching porn, make sure your webcam isn't turned on, close the bathroom when pooping etc.

But having a VPN when watching porn or banning phones from the restroom, that's not something many (most?) people do. How come? What's the difference?

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by meruru on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @04:48PM (#20568968)
The main difference between those things is that one is easy to understand and the other is not.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by somerandomness on Wednesday July 31, 2019 @09:44AM (#20574350)
Also vpn typically costs money
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by Fnoord on Thursday August 01, 2019 @03:28AM (#20581757)
If you don't want to use P2P or multiple hops ("Secure Core"), then ProtonVPN offers some free VPNs.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by ParadigmaShift on Sunday August 04, 2019 @12:35PM (#20607532)
I use ProtonVPN free nested with another free VPN, then I put Tor on top. You just have to know what you are doing.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by timClicks on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @05:19PM (#20569288)
This is actually cultural too. Stalls in China don't have doors.. nor toilets for that matter.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by nobody0 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @10:55PM (#20571355)
Well,in some villages/towns probably yes. In bigger cities, stalls have doors generally. I don't think people wanna be seen while they are sitting..
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by Fnoord on Thursday August 01, 2019 @03:25AM (#20581735)
> I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though.

I do, but not because I'm shy someone might see (a glimpse) of me being naked; I do it so that they don't attempt to enter a toilet already in use. I find myself often not closing the toilet in after hours. In fact, I don't close the toilet at home cause I know the people who can enter won't. Except when I poo, I might, because I don't want them to smell it.

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by Lio on Wednesday July 31, 2019 @11:21AM (#20575108)
Yep hard to believe now but it never used to be a taboo subject.

Office wanking used to be an everyday, normal part of the working week. It was the big change in the 1990s after they banned office smoking.

As recorded by this fly on the wall documentary series from the UK, “Big Train”:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VKH9ECC_Qa4

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by mirimir on Wednesday July 31, 2019 @01:05PM (#20576131)
Huh? Really, "office wanking"? I don't recall anywhere that was OK. Although I won't claim that I never did it. Or office (in my case, lab) sex, either. But always at night, when very few were working.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by bobbyd3 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @06:54PM (#20570067)
Everyone has something to hide... and do you really want your fetishes and sexual interests tracked and profiled? That random BDSM video you viewed, etc
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by david-gpu on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @07:35PM (#20570310)
...it wasn't random and I'm out and proud. Some people are not ashamed of their sexual desires. I do understand some people are, and they are concerned about tracking.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by bobbyd3 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @08:09PM (#20570519)
If you were given access to a list of all the porn content you've viewed along with the associated metadata neatly categorized and documented it might change your outlook on the issue. It's not just about the subject matter, it's about what conclusions can be correctly or incorrectly drawn from the data. Metadata such as date and time, location, etc. would be of interest. All this being said, "I'm a sick fuck, I like a quick fuck"

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/01/pornhub-views-spiked-...

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by mirimir on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @08:29PM (#20570639)
I'm not necessarily ashamed about anything. Although I am disturbed at how hot I get about some seriously evil stuff. But at least not by abusive child porn, which only saddens and angers me. Even the child model bullshit. There's lots of that on Freenet.

And yes, I am perhaps too curious.

However, I definitely wouldn't want anything beyond mainstream porn linked to my meatspace identity. Because I don't want to risk rotting in prison for ~five years, and getting permanent probation. But by using VPNs and Tor, I need not be overly constrained by those risks.

Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by c1sc0 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @09:29PM (#20570947)
What if those desires happen to be illegal in your country of residence? In some locales plain homosexuality can get you in trouble.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by mirimir on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @04:30PM (#20568802)
It depends where you are, and what sort of porn you watch. In some places, any porn could mean prison or worse. In more places, it could mean losing a job, divorce, etc.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by meruru on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @04:52PM (#20569015)
There are a lot of intolerant people of all kinds around. I can't blame people for being low-key about it. Arguably being open helps change that, but the more fringe content is going to take time to be accepted.
Re:Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and... by your-nanny on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @08:18PM (#20570573)
and yet everyone pretends the opposite