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Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by vbezhenar on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:19AM (#20565632)
> I don't want to be forced to trust every company with my credit card information

This problem is solved with Paypal.

Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by greedo on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:24AM (#20565708)
Considering PayPal's numerous issues, I don't think that using it as a credit card substitute for online purchases is that great of an idea.
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by dwyerm on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:49AM (#20566032)
...or Amazon. I have problems with PayPal, but I still trust Amazon to transfer money to vendors. In any event, even if you do trust a company, they may not trust you.

Bed Bath and Beyond had done everything right to capture my purchase: They hosted the wedding registry, took care of the couple's address, and by not allowing me to select "I'm buying this somewhere else" kept me from leaving to where I could possibly get the item cheaper.

But BB&B requires Verified By Visa, and I require my credit card provider to not be stupid about security, so my card was declined. I turned right around and bought the item on Amazon.

Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by 693471 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:36AM (#20565875)
Why would anyone trust PayPal? They still owe me $900 from 2005 when I was the victim of a reverse scam. (Buyer claimed i scammed and never sent it; they refused to investigate or accept my tracking info as proof)
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by pathartl on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:43AM (#20565958)
To me this just verifies that diversity is better than uniformity in these scenarios. That's fine if you don't trust PayPal because of your own experiences, but why should we be forced to use Apple Pay?
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by y_molodtsov on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @12:03PM (#20566180)
Nobody forces you to use Apple Pay.
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by vbezhenar on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @01:51PM (#20567327)
That's seller problems. As a buyer I never had any problems with Paypal and I don't store money there, so I don't see much risk for myself.
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by sgjohnson on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @12:06PM (#20566212)
I don’t actually care. The cardmembers are never liable for fraud.

I don’t use my debit card for online purchases at all however. If someone steals that and uses it, I’m out of pocket until the bank resolves it, which can take days.

With credit cards, and Amex especially, they’ll simply reverse the fraudulent transactions and overnight you a new card.

Someone skimmed my Amex when I was on a vacation in Japan, charged about ¥700k on it. One call to them, they froze the transactions and in roughly 16 hours I collected a new card in the hotel lobby.

Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by briandear on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:45AM (#20565978)
Except who trusts PayPal? They can lock you out for no apparent reason with little recourse. I refuse to buy from sites that use PayPal exclusively.
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by TheRealPomax on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:21AM (#20565663)
And modern banks that offer their customers "one time use" credit card numbers that you load up with an exact amount, and expire after a few hours if not collected on by a third party.
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by PakG1 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:24AM (#20565703)
Stripe gets no love? :)
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by Operyl on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @12:26PM (#20566414)
Stripe doesn't offer this as a consumer service, does it? Stripe Issuing is offered as a US invite only program to businesses.
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by zentiggr on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:24AM (#20565712)
And now you have two problems.

But at least the worst is better than most everything else.

Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by scarface74 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:53AM (#20566076)
You haven’t heard about all of the issues with PayPal for over decade?
Re:You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Somet... by vbezhenar on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @01:53PM (#20567352)
Any payment system have issues. I've experienced good stories with Paypal, when they refunded me my money without much questions. Much better than my bank.