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Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @08:32AM (#20564206)
Doesn't seem very mysterious to me. If you're gonna find something from far away you're gonna find it in some place the kind of people who would travel from far away (i.e. high class people, this is antiquity we're talking about, Greyhound buses hadn't been invented yes) would be. The site they found it at is one of the most impressive villas in England, exactly the kind of place where you'd host some guest from far away.
Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by empath75 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @09:16AM (#20564507)
I would be surprised if a wealthy person had gone all the way to the black sea and back.

If you think of trade as sort of just randomly shuffling objects between nodes on a graph, given enough objects and enough time, you should see some examples of everything from everywhere, without any single person taking any object all the way from a to z.

I buy some perfume bottles at a port on the black sea, sell a bunch of them in anatolia, some trader picks them up a crate of them from a market in constantinople, sells them at a markup in italy, an aristocrat gives one to his wife, and then then gets appointed governor in Gaul, etc..

Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:06AM (#20565460)
While I agree with your entropy model I think that for items like this there's more direct paths that are equally reasonable.

It stands to reason that the middle level important people who made strategic level decisions about things like military defenses, which roads to build up, etc, etc who's work was on the edge of the empire would move between the various points on its edge directly rather than traveling to/from Rome like a higher level person who reports to people in Rome would do. Some middle level political or military official probably bought the perfume around the same time they moved from the northeast to the northwest or had reason to travel there and brought it back as a souvenir or gift for their wife or something.

Sure, most rich people didn't travel or not that far but of those that did this is exactly the kind of place they'd wind up going to/from or passing through. The glass could have gotten there through a circuitous route as you described but I find it slightly more probable that it could have been transported there reasonably directly by its end user.

Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by fapjacks on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @01:50PM (#20567316)
There's basically zero chance that glass bottle belonged to anyone that wasn't super wealthy. Also, "middle level" "decision makers" were essentially all assigned to a specific legion, or e.g. veterans with land grants taking an administrative office. Id est mostly static individuals. Almost all travel within the Roman Empire was either military or trade. Or super wealthy people (and/or their entourage).
Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by duxup on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @10:08AM (#20564949)
Yeah trading, looting, however it moves if it is of some value I expect it would move around eventually just by changing hands.

How direct or complex trade networks may be can be up for debate, but humans will be handing things off one way or another for sure.

Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by compiler-guy on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @11:35AM (#20565853)
The archaeologists working on the dig thought it was a bit of a mystery and a special find. Not so much the fact that there was an unusual artifact, but where the unusual artifact may have come from.

The glass historian they contacted also thought it was a bit of a mystery and a special find.

What are your qualifications to say that they were wrong?

Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @12:06PM (#20566208)
What's mysterious is what it was. Now that we know that it seems like there's several non-controversial paths for how it could have got where we found it.
Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by lawlessone on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @12:31PM (#20566456)
I imagine it was used to carry the captured souls of pedantic people.
Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by fapjacks on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @01:44PM (#20567245)
Pedants.
Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by Aardwolf on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @08:41AM (#20564257)
I agree, it's not like people couldn't travel around, and it would be beneficial for traders to do so
Re:Mystery of Chedworth's 1,800-year-old Roman glass shard s... by pjmlp on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @09:02AM (#20564398)
Yep and we have a couple of surviving books from those days regarding traveling.