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Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by aeorgnoieang on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:43PM (#20557895)
Nah, blame the regulators too for thinking that filling out paperwork is likely to meaningfully dissuade someone from using human remains to make dog food. It was probably sufficient to explain to that one guy why that was bad.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by freehunter on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:59PM (#20558091)
>It was probably sufficient to explain to that one guy why that was bad.

Greed doesn't listen to reason.

Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by icelancer on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:09PM (#20558213)
....nor regulators.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by dragonwriter on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:32PM (#20559668)
Greed listens to regulators that have teeth, because then the expected benefit of non-compliance is negative.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by erobbins on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:34PM (#20558501)
With a functional government, regulations enable the regulators to punish people who do these things.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by merpnderp on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:56PM (#20558693)
Since we're talking about human remains in dog food, there's already likely a litany of felonies involved in turning a person into dog food. The regulators just like to regulate.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by dymk on Monday July 29, 2019 @04:47PM (#20559261)
> there's already likely a litany of felonies involved in turning a person into dog food

yes, it's a felony because of regulation, made by... regulators

Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by stickfigure on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @01:10AM (#20562278)
IANAL, but I'd guess it's a felony because of legislation, made by legislators.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by xyzzyz on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:33PM (#20559679)
Theft is also forbidden by regulation, but thankfully I don't have to file daily reports yet to Theft-Prevention Agency listing all the things that I handled but not stolen today.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by gamblor956 on Monday July 29, 2019 @06:02PM (#20559932)
Theft is not forbidden by regulation, it's forbidden by laws.

What's the difference? Laws are written by legislators, i.e., the elected representatives. Regulations are written by agencies created and empowered by laws to oversee certain parts of the government/governmental functions.

Regulators work largely by requiring reports because most agencies don't have criminal enforcement powers, and thus can act only on the basis of what is (or isn't) reported...

Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by nybble41 on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @05:41PM (#20569483)
The real difference is that theft is punishable under natural law regardless of what any regulators or legislators might say. There can be no consistent system which would permit theft while prohibiting a proportional punishment for it. If theft is permitted then enforced restitution (recovery of the stolen property) and punishment (fines) must also be permitted, because these are ultimately the same action.

Laws and regulations which are not merely codification of natural law ultimately come down to attempting to create rules which apply to some people and not others. Unfortunately, legislators and regulators get away with this all to often through a combination of good propaganda and willingness to employ unjustified force to achieve their goals.

Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by lonelappde on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:59PM (#20559910)
You don't, but banks and pawn shops do.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by MisterBastahrd on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:09PM (#20558224)
It's not there to dissuade you. It's there to provide a paper trail in case you do something stupid.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by jjeaff on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:17PM (#20558312)
Or have one page with a single checkbox that says "I understand it is illegal to use human remains in dog food"
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by freewilly1040 on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:52PM (#20558666)
Regulation isn't about informing people what the rules are, it's about people proving they are following the rules.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by lonelappde on Monday July 29, 2019 @06:00PM (#20559913)
It's both. The level of paperwork depends on the risk profile.
Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by jjeaff on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @05:05PM (#20569151)
Sure. And there is no way a stack of paperwork can prove you are -not- using human remains.

Check the box that you understand and expect possible, random inspections.

Re:Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without stat... by vkou on Monday July 29, 2019 @06:53PM (#20560311)
Would you prefer that regulators would sanction bad behaviour and throw people in jail post-facto, make-up-the-rules-as-they-go-along instead?

Because that's the most palatable alternative.