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Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted by yholio on Monday July 29, 2019 @12:49PM (#20556604)
The polygraph is entirely scientific in the way it actually works: eliciting forced confessions under psychological coercion. However, for that coercion to be effective, the targets and the public at large must be convinced of a pseudoscientific idea that lies are detectable physiologically.

Hence the conflict between the promoters and the detractors, proving that it works would make it no longer work.

Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted by goatlover on Monday July 29, 2019 @01:13PM (#20556906)
And how do we know whether a forced confession is true? False confessions do happen under other circumstances. Obviously, if the subject reveals something backed by evidence they wouldn't have known being innocent, that's one thing. But if we're using their confession as the evidence, then it's the same problem as any forced confession.
Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted by fortran77 on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:12PM (#20557566)
There's a great book called "The Memory Illusion" by Dr. Julia Shaw

http://www.memoryillusion.com/

It's very easy to get false convictions, and to make people believe false memories. There have been widely replicated experiments.

Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted by mikeash on Monday July 29, 2019 @01:49PM (#20557295)
There are two different answers depending on who you ask.

The more ignorant will answer: it’s obviously true because they confessed. Nobody would confess to a crime they didn’t commit.

The more evil answer is: who cares? The public is reassured by a self-admitted criminal going to prison and I get re-elected.

Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted by goatlover on Monday July 29, 2019 @01:58PM (#20557387)
Right, and both work until the conviction is overturned, the media makes a big deal out of it, and the Justice System is called into question yet again. Or it's not overturned, and someone makes a documentary followed by a dozen podcasts and online petitions. Which again calls into question how just the Justice System is, and how impartial a jury of your peers really is.

The Generation Why podcast will occasionally raise the point that if you try the same case more than once, you often get different results. Which really raises questions. Why didn't the judge allow certain information into the trial the first time, but another judge did the second time? How was the prosecution able to withhold information from the defense? Why on Earth did the jury find the defendant guilty despite no evidence tying them to the crime? Or in some cases, the opposite is true. How did the jury find the defendant innocent with that much evidence against them?

Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted by jrace on Monday July 29, 2019 @04:02PM (#20558749)
And the real perpetrator is never caught.
Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted by the-pigeon on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:29PM (#20557749)
Not at all.

Any information you receive verbally from a single source is not very reliable regardless of how it was obtained.