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Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by extension on Friday December 31, 2010 @09:48AM (#2055476)
The main page claims "the ratings are based on the number of skilled engineers world-wide, courses and third party vendors" yet the definition page says that all they do is search for "$LANGUAGE programming" on a few sites and add up the hits. The sites are Google, YouTube, Wikipedia, Blogger, MSN, and Yahoo. None of these are particularly relevant to the industry and search results could be affected by a wide variety of factors. I don't see how any conclusive meaning can be derived from this methodology.

I find it strange, for example, that Scala is not in the top 50 and Clojure is not in the top 100, while languages I've never heard of make the top 20.

Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by zck on Friday December 31, 2010 @10:07AM (#2055513)
>I find it strange, for example, that...Clojure is not in the top 100...

It isn't included in the search for Lisp (http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/tpci_d...). Email them and they'll add it.

Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by seanalltogether on Friday December 31, 2010 @09:10AM (#2055414)
As someone who has done flash programming for the past 10 years I've never trusted this index. While I primarily work in objective-c these days, I can tell you from the size of the communities, to the amount of books that have been written, to the [very large number of jobs](http://jobsearch.monster.com/PowerSearch.aspx?q=flex&tm=...) in that field that this index just doesn't make sense to me.
Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by indy on Friday December 31, 2010 @07:49AM (#2055276)
Delphi is more popular than Javascript?
Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by lenni on Friday December 31, 2010 @08:11AM (#2055316)
And JavaScript's proportional use has fallen in the last year?
Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by chromatic on Friday December 31, 2010 @12:54PM (#2055924)
The Object Pascal compiler currently known as Oxygene used to be "Chrome". Delphi jumped in the TIOBE ratings around the time Google released a browser named Chrome.
Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by muuh-gnu on Friday December 31, 2010 @10:20AM (#2055549)
They count an all time low for Visual Basic at position 7, yet they have VisualBasic.NET at position 45, less popular than Logo, JavaFX and APL. When its not VB.NET at position 7, which Basic can they possibly mean? VBA? They can't possibly mean VB6, can they?
Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by nestlequ1k on Friday December 31, 2010 @09:06AM (#2055411)
Yeah, these rankings are complete and utter bullshit.
Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by scorchin on Friday December 31, 2010 @12:00PM (#2055784)
I would say that Google searches for programming languages would be a little better as a benchmark. As it denotes the number of new users trying to learn a language (demand).

Google Trends for (some) functional languages: http://www.google.com/insights/search/#cat=31&q=erlang%2...

Just a shame that you can't add more than 5.

Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by cgrubb on Friday December 31, 2010 @12:09PM (#2055814)
The TIOBE index is the homecoming queen at the school for the homely.

If you are going to date one of these girls, also check these out:

http://lang-index.sourceforge.net/

http://www.dataists.com/2010/12/ranking-the-popularity-of-pr...

Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by nhebb on Friday December 31, 2010 @12:55PM (#2055928)
For comparison, here are the tag trends on Stack Overflow: http://hewgill.com/~greg/stackoverflow/stack_overflow/tagtre...
Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by wwkeyboard on Friday December 31, 2010 @09:11AM (#2055420)
I don't know if I agree with their methodology; YouTube, Blogger, and MSN are probably not the best source of information about the programing community.
Re:TIOBE Programming Community Index for December 2010 by code_duck on Friday December 31, 2010 @11:14AM (#2055688)
More activity surrounding Python at the expense of PHP would be a good thing.