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Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by jarin on Thursday December 30, 2010 @11:23PM (#2054498)
While it will probably always be hard to stop inside-man attacks, it will probably always be easy to do backups :)
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by thenbrent on Friday December 31, 2010 @01:37AM (#2054747)
And as Fannie Mae provided the inside-man with root access to all the main systems, it was apparently just as easy to destroy the backups.

Edit: also in reference to this comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2054679

Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by InclinedPlane on Friday December 31, 2010 @01:43AM (#2054768)
If root access to systems lets you destroy backups then they cannot rightly be considered backups.
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by amackera on Friday December 31, 2010 @10:41AM (#2055603)
The Tao of Backup: http://www.taobackup.com/
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by stcredzero on Friday December 31, 2010 @10:55AM (#2055649)
Also, while it will probably always be easy to accomplish inside-man attacks, it will also be generally harder to get away with them than you might think. (Especially if real money is involved!)
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by shashank261 on Friday December 31, 2010 @12:45AM (#2054651)
Just imagine if that guy had been successful. Americans would have been debt free!!
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by zitterbewegung on Friday December 31, 2010 @03:09AM (#2054897)
Actually what would happen is taxpayers would have to pay more to recover the data and go through the physical copies. So in reality we would be in more debt. Life isn't Fight club. (Movie not book)
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by InclinedPlane on Friday December 31, 2010 @01:47AM (#2054773)
Nope. There are plenty of backup records for all of the debts. Physical records of deeds, contracts, etc. And it's possible much of the data could have been restored through backups and data retrieval methods. What this would have caused would be delays and difficulties in handling existing mortgages but the biggest impact would have likely been an inability of people to apply for new mortgages using fanny mae, which is hardly a win for anybody.
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by yummyfajitas on Friday December 31, 2010 @09:42AM (#2055466)
In retrospect, it probably would have been a good thing.
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by endtime on Friday December 31, 2010 @01:10AM (#2054707)
You think that debt wasn't leveraged? You think people can just not pay back loans and no one gets hurt?
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by mdp on Friday December 31, 2010 @02:00AM (#2054797)
Yeah it's easy, just convince everyone you're too big to fail and have the American taxpayer pay it off.
Re:Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logi... by cabalamat on Friday December 31, 2010 @07:50AM (#2055278)
The way the US economic/legal system works is that banks can just not pay their debts and the banks' owners don't get hurt.

If debts owed by banks aren't legally enforceable, debts owed to banks shouldn't be either. To put it another way, limited liability, if it exists, should go both ways.