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Re:DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar by alteria on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @01:13PM (#20517323)
The usual explanation for tipping is that the minimum wage for tipped employees is lower than the non-tipped minimum wage (sometimes as low as $2.13).

If you knew everyone was getting paid the minimum wage, would you still tip on a regular basis?

I recently learned that in states like Washington, California, Oregon this is the case [1], and have been tipping less as a result, but still feel slightly bad about it (societal conditioning is strong!).

[1]https://www.minimum-wage.org/tipped

Re:DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar by rhino369 on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @01:23PM (#20517413)
>The usual explanation for tipping is that the minimum wage for tipped employees is lower than the non-tipped minimum wage (sometimes as low as $2.13).

People get the cause and effect backwards on that. The minimum wage is lower because lawmakers knew they were already getting compensated by tips. It's a social custom, not charity.

Re:DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar by maxerickson on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @01:25PM (#20517441)
No, that's not the explanation for tipping.

Those reduced minimum wages are justified because the jobs include tipping.

The reason you tip your waiter is (ostensibly) because it creates a direct incentive for better service, by leaving some of the compensation up to the customer.

Let's not have a bunch of replies that ignore my caveat please.

Re:DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar by oarabbus_ on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @01:43PM (#20517634)
>The reason you tip your waiter is (ostensibly) because it creates a direct incentive for better service, by leaving some of the compensation up to the customer.

Funny how service is as good if not better in the vast majority of the rest of the world, despite a lack of tipping culture.

Re:DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar by jmastrangelo on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @02:29PM (#20518147)
Is that true though? "service with a smile" and "The customer is always right" are notions I've seen far far more in the US.

I think its more of a cultural thing than an effect of tipping, but service in the US is usually pretty high quality.

Re:DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar by robocat on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:15PM (#20520518)
From what I can tell (traveled to US, EU, live in non-tipping culture), it is often:

"service with a FORCED smile" which I find far worse than service without a smile.

and

"PRETEND the customer is always right" which happens in non-tipping culture too (do whatever makes the least trouble for yourself at work).

Re:DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar by oarabbus_ on Thursday July 25, 2019 @01:15PM (#20527321)
Yes, it's absolutely true.

Any Asian country I've been to had much better service than the US. France (Paris) had excellent service. Greece had extremely nice service. These are all low- or no- tipping places.

Re:DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar by lotsofpulp on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @03:02PM (#20518488)
I would say the opposite, service in most other countries is better than the US.