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Re:My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford by mulmen on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @10:17PM (#20511912)
That's a very convenient way to define parity. If we funded railroads at 175bn per year what would be subsidy come to? Presumably there would be a lot more passengers at that level.
Re:My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford by rayiner on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @11:11PM (#20512121)
Most of our rail network, outside the northeast corridor, is already vastly underutilized. Roads get more funding because that's what people use, and that's what's most convenient for 95% of people (who don't live in the downtown core of a major city) to use.

But regardless, you can get an idea from the EU. EU rail subsidies amount to 73 billion euro annually. EU rail carried 465 billion passenger-kilometers in 2017, or 300 billion passenger miles. That's a subsidy of $0.24 euro per passenger mile, even worse than Amtrak.

Roads are just really cheap to build and maintain. A 6-lane interstate highway costs $11 million per mile in urban-ish areas: http://blog.midwestind.com/cost-of-building-road. It's going to cost $1.4 billion to add four lanes to the 35 miles of the BW Parkway (which goes through a dense urban area connecting two major cities). At $40 million per mile, that's 1/6 of what it cost to build the Metro Silver line through less dense areas in an existing freeway median. That's 1/9 the per-mile cost of the purple line, a light rail line that mostly travels at grade without its own right of way.

Re:My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford by brianpgordon on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @03:49AM (#20513102)
I know you probably realize this but I think it's worth pointing out that even though it's cheap for the government to maintain roads, the total cost of transporting people by car on those roads includes much more than just the roads. Of course, it's politically difficult for the government to ask people to spend less on their cars and give the money to it instead so it can more efficiently and cleanly transport them by rail.
Re:My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford by tptacek on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @10:19PM (#20511924)
The point of the exercise is to look at air passenger statistics to get a broad sense of what the high watermark of usage would be, since air travel is the dominant way of navigating the continental US.
Re:My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford by pdonis on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @11:33PM (#20512205)
> air travel is the dominant way of navigating the continental US.

That's because, even with all its faults, averaged over all travelers it beats the heck out of all the other alternatives for trips that would take more than a few hours by car or train. Scalzi's experience, as messed up as it was, is an outlier.