Honestly, I have no idea where you’re getting this from. There’s certainly economy classes out there worse than SG, but to compare it to any first class experience is complete nonsense.
With flat beds and everything? How can they possibly afford that?
Anyway, I'm talking about the level of service and comfort: great meals, blankets, pillows, beautiful and friendly flight attendants, hot handtowels, free wine/beer, even some warm socks for wearing to the bathroom, are all standard in economy class. Several of these are probably not even available in First Class on American carriers, such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol.
I think you must have an atypical experience of US business or first.
Towels, socks, free alcohol are all basics on US carriers that you always get in business or first.
Free alcohol is available even in economy on every US carrier I’ve been on.
Citation needed.
>>such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol. >Towels, socks, free alcohol are all basics on US carriers that you always get in business or first.
No, I'm not talking about towels, I'm talking about a handtowel. It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands. It's called an oshibori in Japanese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshibori https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22372/in-asian-re...
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/eco...
"Complimentary house beer and wines, soft drinks, juices, tea and freshly brewed illy coffee"
That's in economy.
> It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands.
Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well. Here's a video of them being handed out in economy on a domestic US flight.
https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85
Believe me now?
> Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway?
Just resisting your aggressive denial of what I know to be true and accusations that I'm lying (about hot towels, for some reason)! I don't know what parallel universe you're living in but I know what I've seen.
> Do you work for one of them?
No.
As for hot towels, you'll have to do a lot better than a Youtube video with quizzical comments because apparently none of those people have ever seen it either. In fact, if it were so common, why would someone bother to post a short Youtube video of this? Obviously, given the focus of the short video and its title, the fact that they're handing out these towels is new and novel. And as I've said, I've flown domestically countless times, since the 1980s, and I've never seen this, ever. They would almost certainly do it for flights to/from Asia because it's normal there, but Americans aren't used to hot towels. After all, they never serve them in restaurants either.
I have definitely had hot towels and free alcohol on US domestic carriers. I'm not imagining it.
Complementary alcohol - as a standard offering - is not normally offered to basic economy passengers on domestic flights in the U.S., and hasn't been for at least a couple of decades.
That said, some airlines offer it as a promotion on some flights [1], which may be why you have experienced it. But it's not a norm that any coach passenger could expect on any domestic flight, the way it used to be in the earlier days of commercial air travel.
The video you shared of hot towels being handed out in economy on a domestic U.S. flight was a one-off promotional event. It's also not the norm.
Like I said, I get that the two of you were talking about different things and were sometimes confused about what the other was talking about. But you did inflame things by asserting/suggesting things that aren't really the case.
[1] https://www.globaltravelerusa.com/american-airlines-to-offer...
Sounds like you've never flown on an Asian airline. I flew on Singapore Airlines a few months ago and economy there was like first-class on an American airline, but with smaller seats.