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Re:Building a Reflow Oven by kennywinker on Monday July 22, 2019 @02:24AM (#20495727)
I recently did a smd reflow using a cast iron pan and a few handfuls of sand. Worked like a charm.

Got the idea here: https://hackaday.com/2014/02/15/smd-soldering-on-hot-sand/

Granted that was for fairly large, hearty components, but for many hobbyists it seems to me an oven is a bit overkill.

Re:Building a Reflow Oven by bcaa7f3a8bbc on Monday July 22, 2019 @03:04AM (#20495864)
Does your method work for QFN and DFN? I currently find them to be the biggest headache in prototyping. If you coat some solder on the chip and board using an iron and then reflow with a hot air station, it's easy to miss a few pins underneath due to uneven solder distribution; on the other hand, if you use solder paste and reflow with hot air, again, due to uneven solder distribution, you'll short some pins and miss others, and there is no straightforward way to fix it, the thing gets even worse when solder on the ground pad suddenly melts and causes unwanted movements (during rework) that misaligns the chip. I got my board working only by pure luck. I'd like to hear your recommendation.
Re:Building a Reflow Oven by elcritch on Monday July 22, 2019 @04:13AM (#20496142)
QFN/DFN are pain, but I've had decent luck with them using the toaster oven method. Of course that's using a solder mask from JLC PCB, as without the mask you just end up with the incorrect amount of solder. Still you get the occasional missed pin you need to re-solder but it works.
Re:Building a Reflow Oven by bcaa7f3a8bbc on Monday July 22, 2019 @04:17AM (#20496165)
> Still you get the occasional missed pin you need to re-solder but it works.

How? Did you mean to remove all the existing solder, reapply the paste, and reflow again (can that even be done on an already populated board, where do you place the mask/stencil?), or it's something else?

Re:Building a Reflow Oven by elcritch on Monday July 22, 2019 @02:39PM (#20500917)
More of just putting a bead of solder on a soldering iron tip and fixing that pin (best with a microscope setup). If you get the technique just so, you can do a form of "drag soldering" to fix a missing pin or two. Otherwise you can do a quick dab with a bead of solder since with most QFN's you can still see the side of the pin but you may need to rotate the board. I think there are a bunch of great youtube videos on doing that.

Getting a proper solders for QFN's really does best with a proper metal stencil. If you use JCL PCB, use their "electropolishing" option otherwise on fine pins the paste sticks more.

Removing and reflowing the part is tricky and often damages the part. Also to not ruin other parts of the board, a heat gun is often easier. We've never really tried reflowing parts unless a board didn't "bake" properly.

Re:Building a Reflow Oven by sokoloff on Monday July 22, 2019 @06:11AM (#20496647)
Confirm you meant to say stencil rather than solder mask there? (Solder mask is the colored material over the board, while a stencil is a separate piece of metal with holes cut to allow solder paste application with a squeegee.)
Re:Building a Reflow Oven by elcritch on Monday July 22, 2019 @02:30PM (#20500812)
> Confirm you meant to say stencil rather than solder mask there?

Yes, stencil is what I meant to say. The "mask" part of solder mask seems to throw me everytime I mean to say stencil, as in I want to mask the parts of the board _not_ to solder. Someways I wish English were more like Swiss/German or Hebrew.

Re:Building a Reflow Oven by kennywinker on Monday July 22, 2019 @02:55PM (#20501107)
All the ic’s on the board I used this technique on had leads, so I can’t comment on how dfn/qfn parts would work. Pan+sand would definitely be the first thing I try tho
Re:Building a Reflow Oven by bcaa7f3a8bbc on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @02:49AM (#20504932)
Thanks for the confirmation anyway!