Re:Lockheed's Skunk Works Building Bigger Fusion Reactor
by Robotbeat on Saturday July 20, 2019 @04:13PM
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I just find that these other considerations are either an excuse or a distraction from actually meeting this minimum objective goal. Breakeven or get out.
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Re:Lockheed's Skunk Works Building Bigger Fusion Reactor
by pfdietz on Monday July 22, 2019 @07:41AM
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Every journey starts with a first step, but so does every dead end.
If the engineering and economic issues are showstoppers, then focusing on breakeven is simply wasting money. It's almost a canonical example of shortsightedness.
Re:Lockheed's Skunk Works Building Bigger Fusion Reactor
by Robotbeat on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:59AM
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It's actually much more true the other way around: if physics is somehow fundamentally preventing you from fusion ignition, then focusing on engineering or economic issues is a complete waste in money and a dead end. Because while economics and engineering change over time, physics[1] does not. It's like spending money trying to solve the economics challenges of a perpetual motion machine[2].
[1](Although our understanding of physics does.)
[2](...which fusion is not)
Re:Lockheed's Skunk Works Building Bigger Fusion Reactor
by pfdietz on Monday July 22, 2019 @05:46PM
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A showstopper is a showstopper. Yes, physics can rule things out. But so can economics. There is no reason to give the first priority over the second, if the second is sufficiently bad. And I will claim those practical considerations render fusion very dubious. And yes, they change over time: they have gotten WORSE for fusion. It used to be that fusion was competing with fission to be that post-fossil energy source. That was, perhaps, not too unreasonable, especially if the fission had to be with breeding. But now, it competes with dramatically cheaper renewables.
Re:Lockheed's Skunk Works Building Bigger Fusion Reactor
by Robotbeat on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @04:25PM
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Yes there is because again, physics does not change. Physics showstopper rules out all others.
Re:Lockheed's Skunk Works Building Bigger Fusion Reactor
by pfdietz on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @04:55PM
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To the end user, it doesn't matter if physics or economics caused a technology to be useless. It's still useless. And it doesn't matter to the financier either. In either case, any investment he made is lost.
Your attitude is a reflection of a culture that considers physics to somehow be a deeper subject than engineering, facing more fundamental and important problems. The details are "just engineering", somehow not important or relevant.