Re:Wired's Response to Glenn Greenwald (re:Lamo-Manning Chat...
by tptacek on Wednesday December 29, 2010 @12:32AM
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It's not "my" cheerleading list; it's distilled contents of the two official responses. If you disagree with them, you disagree with the article.
I believe Poulsen more than I believe Greenwald, but that's neither here nor there. Unless you think I've misrepresented the article, leave me out of it.
Re:Wired's Response to Glenn Greenwald (re:Lamo-Manning Chat...
by OpieCunningham on Wednesday December 29, 2010 @12:48AM
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Wasn't clear to me in what you wrote that you were attempting to objectively summarize the article.
You missed at least one other, that part where Poulsen "refuted" Greenwalds accusation that Poulsen notified the NYTimes re: Lamos breach and then wrote an article about it by correcting Greenwald in that Poulsen actually notified the NYTimes about Lamos breach and then wrote an article about it ... with a quote from the NYTimes.
Thanks for your summary, though.
Re:Wired's Response to Glenn Greenwald (re:Lamo-Manning Chat...
by tptacek on Wednesday December 29, 2010 @12:52AM
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I also left out that Mark Rasch wasn't actually a bona fide Wired contributor, and I'm sure a bunch of other stuff. I was responding to 'grandalf's insinuation that Wired was having a nitpicked temper tantrum, when in fact they were condemned publicly in Salon for serious journalistic ethics lapses.
I know that's essentially paraphrased from Wireds response, like everything else you called out - but is that actually what Greenwald has done? What I've seen is two fold:
1- Greenwald calling out news organizations for presenting Assanges displeasure at his own privacy breaches as hypocrisy when it actually isn't hypocrisy for a democratic govt to have limited privacy and an individual to have maximum privacy.
2- Assange calling out the Swedish govt for leaking information about the case when the govts own laws dictate that the information remain private.
So although Wired eloquently said one thing, and you helpfully repeated it, is it even true? I haven't seen it, perhaps you could provide a link to Greenwald where he said it. And maybe there are a few more items on your cheerleading list that would be better served with some citations.