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Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by cloud_thrasher on Thursday July 18, 2019 @07:50PM (#20475089)
Coral Talk is a Vox Media endeavor.
Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by Fellshard on Thursday July 18, 2019 @08:55PM (#20475389)
That certainly puts a very different angle on how this will be used, and what use cases it's targeted towards.

From prior experience, Vox outlets are extremely stringent about what they permit in their comments: specifically, only people who agree or can extend the arguments of a given article further are preserved; or quibbles about minor details. No true discussion is allowed outside the article's bubble.

Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by andrepd on Thursday July 18, 2019 @09:18PM (#20475478)
Source? Those are pretty serious accusations.
Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by Fellshard on Thursday July 18, 2019 @09:48PM (#20475587)
Personal anecdote.

Vox itself removed comments after a time, probably because this bubble could not reasonably be preserved in response to the majority of their articles.

The Verge is somewhat more open, depending on the topic and whether it is technical or political in nature.

Polygon's Ben Kuchera is a caustically aggressive moderator, and is the primary one I saw behaving in this manner, in addition to antagonizing commenters who disagreed with an article's premise; doubly so if he himself wrote the article.

Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by ggm on Thursday July 18, 2019 @09:34PM (#20475541)
Funny, I don't see these as accusations, I see these as curated engagement.

The upside is there, if you know up-front its the basis of the engagement. If its applied retrospectively it sucks, for a number of people.

But curation is not always bad. "it depends"

Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by Noos on Friday July 19, 2019 @01:01PM (#20480430)
There's no "engagement." It just ends up with banal "I agree" posts that add nothing to the article. And it doesn't add many to them, Polygon's comment sections tend to be tiny and not worth reading, for example. You get better news and engagement on reddit.
Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by Fellshard on Friday July 19, 2019 @03:47PM (#20481858)
They used to be larger, and I believe that restrictive, inconsistent moderation drove people away, but that's merely a guess of one probable cause.
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Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by camdenlock on Friday July 19, 2019 @03:20AM (#20476777)
Isn’t this what Vox and friends already do, just with s/alt-right/leftism/ ?
Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by Fellshard on Friday July 19, 2019 @03:25AM (#20476795)
I believe that is their point.
Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by jp_sc on Thursday July 18, 2019 @09:01PM (#20475420)
Their license says the copyright of the project belongs to Mozilla. How weird. https://github.com/coralproject/talk/blob/master/LICENSE
Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by Fellshard on Thursday July 18, 2019 @09:04PM (#20475427)
https://scroll.blog/2019/02/25/scrolls-new-collaboration-wit...

With this recent product that is also closely integrated with Vox properties, I'd say this is a deeply concerning move how closely the two are becoming entangled.

Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by camdenlock on Friday July 19, 2019 @03:19AM (#20476773)
Indeed. Some creepy language on the Scroll site, e.g. “With Scroll, journalists get paid to report the stories important to democracy [...]”

These Vox-alikes seem to fancy themselves arbiters of meaning with regard to “journalism” and “democracy”. Anything which disagrees with their personal definitions must be “alt-right”...

Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by ianbicking on Thursday July 18, 2019 @09:21PM (#20475492)
It started as a Mozilla Foundation project, and then Vox Media took it over.
Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by KajMagnus on Thursday July 18, 2019 @11:06PM (#20475880)
Why didn't Mozilla continue leading the project?

(If you happen to know)

Here's a blog post about the change: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2019/01/22/the-coral-project-i...

It writes: "After 3.5 years at Mozilla, the time is right for Coral software to move further into the journalism space, and grow with the support of an organization grounded in that industry", and "... The Coral Project will receive the backing of a large company ...". — However, Vox could back the project, also if it was still led my Mozilla, right. Still unclear to me why Mozilla didn't want to continue leading the project? Maybe Talk was too different from other things Mozilla does, and maybe it cost money and didn't bring any revenue?

Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by ianbicking on Friday July 19, 2019 @06:37PM (#20483019)
I don't really have inside knowledge, but I think if the opportunity comes to graduate a project to external management and resourcing the Mozilla Foundation is probably going to take it. Quite a few projects are managed by Mozilla Foundation but receive very substantive external funding, and I think that was the case for Coral. That grant-based funding is often time limited and requires a bunch of hustling, so having a long-term committed sponsor would be attractive.
Re:Talk: An open-source commenting platform focused on bette... by lallysingh on Friday July 19, 2019 @08:36AM (#20478077)
Or maybe Mozilla wanted to free those resources to work on other things? The project got to "good enough" state and they started looking for a new maintainer?