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Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by tcd on Thursday July 18, 2019 @02:16PM (#20472514)
We need new measures to not allow these certificates to be installed unless they're verified, or at least the OS shows a massive giant warning "DO NOT DO THIS unless you accept this cert gives $identity access to all your data".

Seems a very solvable problem.

Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by tastroder on Thursday July 18, 2019 @02:24PM (#20472604)
Verified by whom? I certainly want my browser and OS to retain my possibility of installing certificates all day long.

Trivial technological solutions will not stop the state actor from retaliating against those not following their policy either.

Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by sbierwagen on Thursday July 18, 2019 @02:28PM (#20472649)
I mean, the choice being presented is to install the MITM cert, or to not use the internet at all. The latter is an answer, certainly, but not what I would call a very good solution.
Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by tzakrajs on Thursday July 18, 2019 @02:38PM (#20472753)
The government is forcing people to find a third choice and they might not like what they pick.
Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by technion on Thursday July 18, 2019 @07:03PM (#20474824)
It's a common meme that users will click "yes" to everything, but I'm not sure people realise just how far that goes. Look how it looks when Chrome marks a site as malware:

https://www.removemalware.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/the...

Wait until you're doing forensics on a cryptolocker outbreak and you find not only did a user do that, but multiple users helped her through it and the management then praised her for overcoming technical barriers even after it was found to be the cause of the incident.

Unfortunately nothing about warnings makes anything a solved problem.

Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by AWildC182 on Thursday July 18, 2019 @02:21PM (#20472565)
Corporations also do this so they can scan traffic for data exfil.
Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by yusyusyus on Thursday July 18, 2019 @02:47PM (#20472834)
Which is, tbqh, a useless solution. Oh wow, now an attacker just has to include some obfuscated javascript encryption lib. Bam. Exfil detection completely bypassed.
Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by bsder on Friday July 19, 2019 @12:32AM (#20476193)
True, but Joe Dipseedoodle doesn't accidentally send out an HR report because he was logged into his personal email account.

Too much security is willing to give up on the 95% because they can't get the 100%.

Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by vbezhenar on Thursday July 18, 2019 @03:20PM (#20473076)
For example corporations might want to make sure that worker is not sending e-mails with confidential data from its gmail. Sophisticated thief surely will circumvent that kind of protection, but a lot of thieves are stupid, so simple measures actually work.
Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by smallbigfish on Thursday July 18, 2019 @02:32PM (#20472691)
Is that a new word I should know?
Re:MITM on HTTPS traffic in Kazakhstan by jcranmer on Thursday July 18, 2019 @02:34PM (#20472704)
It's a shortened version of "exfiltration"