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Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by kasey_junk on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @07:24PM (#20454853)
If you aren’t using your network (you have a network right?). You’ve already failed.

No one in tech knows how to hire so its all network based. This isn’t a good thing but it’s where we are.

Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by Balero on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @07:43PM (#20454986)
I didn't use my network to get a job. I moved to a new country with no network. I have a well paying job and am quite happy. I have not failed.

I can see the benefit of having a network, and even leveraging it. But it is not everything.

Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by kasey_junk on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @07:48PM (#20455025)
How did you get your job?
Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by quickthrower2 on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @07:35PM (#20454939)
I don't do networking, and I don't make a lot of friends outside of work, so I really only know people I have worked with before, and those people are mostly working at the same company I left, or they are working at companies I don't want to work at.

So I've failed by the bar set in your comment, but for some reason I don't feel that way, because there are plenty of jobs out there on job boards. I got 1 job through my network (an ex boss) and it wasn't any worse or better than the others. I've got a really good job now.

I can see where networking shines, and it's where you went to a top university, made lots of friends - especially in the same course and kept tabs with them since and a lot of them have gone to work for Google (etc.) or cool startups and now you can find an easier way in, which is fair enough.

Note: I'm not in the USA

Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by kasey_junk on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @07:47PM (#20455016)
You do networking everyday of your professional career. It’s a real consideration if the job you are going to take will allow you to work with people you want to work with at the job after this one. Don’t discount that value.

Right now is not a good time to judge your career pathing plan. It’s literally the easiest time to get a job in computing in modern history, which includes the first web boom. It’s like judging your investment strategy right now. That said if your plan is working, great! I wouldn’t spend much time on indeed if it were me but good for you.

Note: all of my jobs ever have come from networks and I went to the wrong state school and have never worked for Google.

Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by quickthrower2 on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @08:21PM (#20455228)
Not had trouble finding work this way for 16 years. I do think it is interesting that things can change - black swans and all that. I don't feel that afraid as I managed to get a job as a grad after the .com bust. Unless computing goes out of fashion? Or get really easy to program.
Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by kasey_junk on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @08:29PM (#20455303)
Your last job, how did you get it? Literally didn’t involve any precious coworkers?
Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by quickthrower2 on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @08:34PM (#20455333)
No, it was advertised on LinkedIn. Coworkers only required for references.
Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by kasey_junk on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @08:42PM (#20455372)
So you only used a site dedicated to your online network for the first contact and your in person network for the final conversion.

Seems like networks had nothing to do with your job to me...

Re:What every computer science major should know (2011) by quickthrower2 on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @08:55PM (#20455448)
>So you only used ...

Nope I used more than one job search method.

It was Advertised. They paid for an advert. To be advertised to strangers.

It might as well have been a Facebook ad or a Google search ad, for all that networks had to do with it.

> Your in person network for the final conversion

Yes references. That's a bit different though.