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Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by sk5t on Monday July 15, 2019 @04:04PM (#20444639)
Would a wooden bicycle, with not-very-freely-spinning wheels, and a bone-jarring ride, be worth the considerable expense of purchasing? Would it even be better than walking and/or using a wheelbarrow? Doesn't the thing produced have to rise above a certain level of utility to merit making some copies of it? For human-scale power, I am not sure a bicycle without bearings or pneumatic tires works other than as a curiosity.
Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by atoav on Monday July 15, 2019 @04:53PM (#20445167)
I think bicycling was really not relevant, because the peasants would probably rather take a mule or a wagon to carry stuff around and the aristocrats would rather take a comfortable carriage.

There was basically no rich middle class which had the time and money to fool around with individual transportation, and the other classes had either no real reason to want this or it was pure luxury.

Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by Someone on Monday July 15, 2019 @07:14PM (#20446165)
Googling “bicycles in Africa” gives me plenty of examples of peasants who, I guess, would rather use a mule or wagon, but cannot afford one, and are much helped with a bicycle.

I also would think such people existed elsewhere in the world centuries ago.

Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by ncmncm on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @01:11AM (#20447627)
Bicycles in Africa can exist only as output of the massive industrial base elsewhere.

Chinese wheelbarrows are the real endpoint of pre-industrial transportation.

Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by loeg on Monday July 15, 2019 @04:06PM (#20444653)
> For human-scale power, I am not sure a bicycle without bearings or pneumatic tires works other than as a curiosity.

Pretty much all modern rideshare bicycles do not have pneumatic tires, FWIW. Ride quality suffers, but it's not an awful tradeoff for short trips with whatever squishy compound they use now.

Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by mikepurvis on Monday July 15, 2019 @04:13PM (#20444729)
Yeah but the alternative in antiquity wasn't "whatever squishy compound", it was wood, perhaps with a metal strap around it, like a carriage wheel.
Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by atoav on Monday July 15, 2019 @04:56PM (#20445188)
Which is why in the early wooden “bikes” (you were sitting on a wooden bar and pushing with your legs) they made the bar “squishy” by adding some sort of saddle or some adapted spring dampers or sth.
Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by DoctorOetker on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @08:31AM (#20449408)
It's interesting that wood is considered impractical for a bicycle... but somehow practical for a carriage?

Carriages used to have suspensions (made from some elastic whale bone I believe).

If someone would attempt to build a bicycle in a time of carriages with carriage wheels, I would then expect this person to also copy (at least in analogy) the suspension systems for carriages of that time, if not on the first try at least on the second...

Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by loeg on Monday July 15, 2019 @04:57PM (#20445204)
Understood.
Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by CydeWeys on Monday July 15, 2019 @05:26PM (#20445433)
That's not really accurate. Docked bikeshare systems in US major cities use real pneumatic tires. Citibike in NYC, whatever Ford Bike in SF is called now, Capital Bikeshare in DC, and more.

It's just some of the cheap dockless purveyors that use non-pneumatic tires, and these companies have been dropping like flies. The docked bikeshares by contrast are still (slowly) expanding with their superior, but admittedly more expensive, bicycles.

Re:Why did we wait so long for the bicycle? by B1FF_PSUVM on Monday July 15, 2019 @05:18PM (#20445377)
> be worth the considerable expense of purchasing

Anyone with the means to pay would much rather use an animal-pulled cart instead of literally making an ass of himself.

Or just ride a horse like a gentleman. (Until the 'mad dogs and Englishmen' craze hit.)