Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design

Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by milemi on Sunday July 14, 2019 @08:59PM (#20437314)

I don't understand how Apple TV remote ever came into being, let alone how it still exists. Even when you somehow break the symmetry, in my case by sticking an ugly address label on the bottom part, skating around the screen with the touch pad is a game of skill that you are forced to play when all you want to do is just select a damn thing on the screen. Not to mention having to undo whatever I've done by touching the touch pad every time I grab the thing.

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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by Phillipharryt on Sunday July 14, 2019 @11:31PM (#20437921)

You're not alone in this, I believe it's the lowest rated item on the apple store (2 stars) and the vast majority of reviews are single stars. It's rubbish.

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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by mhh__ on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:27PM (#20437436)

I don't have one personally but every time I use one at a friend house it just feels crap in a way that I've never felt with an apple product before.

It's obviously well made but it just feels pretentious compared to a phone or remote than you can actually type with.

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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by saagarjha on Monday July 15, 2019 @03:57AM (#20438923)

> remote than you can actually type with

Wouldn't that be a reasonably large remote?

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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by mhh__ on Monday July 15, 2019 @06:19AM (#20439424)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31xFU74uJ6L...

It doesn't even need letter/number buttons, just some proper tactile feedback rather than this smooth hello-my-owner-has-more-money-than-sense rotating action thing i.e. the scroll wheel on an iPod classic from the mid 2000s was miles better.

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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by logicprog on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:39PM (#20437490)

Ok, granted it is slippery, hard to orient, unergonomic, and the buttons are mistake prone, but I actually really like using the touchpad on the occasional time I actually pick up the remote with the correct end forward. It's really nice to be able to move with decent speed around a UI instead of using crappy and hard to press arrow keys.

Note: I've actually perfected a flick-of-the-wrist so that I can reorient the remote quickly when I pick it up wrong.

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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by baggy_trough on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:28PM (#20437441)

If you buy a $6 case for the remote, it becomes quite usable.

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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by Phillipharryt on Sunday July 14, 2019 @11:29PM (#20437911)

How would a case change the touchpad being a terrible control method?

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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by Technetium_Hat on Monday July 15, 2019 @10:57AM (#20441400)

it allows you to hold the remote without accidentally triggering the touchpad.

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