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Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by whatshisface on Sunday July 14, 2019 @02:08AM (#20431922)
Does my computer feel pain when I decrement %eax?
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by z3phyr on Sunday July 14, 2019 @02:22AM (#20431972)
The computer is a part of you, and you should feel all the pain for trying to access out of bound memory
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by aasasd on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:45AM (#20432256)
Thanks to cheap copying and the internet, developers can now ship that pain to any number of users instead of keeping it to themselves.
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by root_axis on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:09AM (#20432335)
Why would it? A computer has no nervous system or self preservation biology that would make use of pain signals.
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by monort on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:32AM (#20432572)
We are talking about pain, not a pain signal. Decrementing register can be a pain signal, but it can't produce feeling of pain (qualia). If humans can be simulated on a Turing machine, we can't feel that definition of pain too.
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by lone_haxx0r on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:14PM (#20435698)
If we make a robot sufficiently similar to us, it would indeed feel pain (qualia). The real question is: Where is the complexity/similarity treshold?
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by monort on Monday July 15, 2019 @02:47AM (#20438657)
They obviously can't feel pain. Imagine you simulate that robot with a turing-complete cellular automaton on paper. At what moment in time will it feel pain as in qualia? When you scribe the next tick on a paper?
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by maurimo on Sunday July 14, 2019 @07:51AM (#20432946)
Isn't the most painful instruction a conditional jump? Especially when the CPU had preloaded the following instructions and realizes it has to abruptly branch somewhere else. If there is a mechanism of pain in the CPU it should be triggered by this unpredicted waste of power and time.
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by lone_haxx0r on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:24AM (#20432188)
If the computer is running a complex algorithm that tries to keep the value of %eax as high a possible, then I think it would feel pain if you decremented that value.
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by saagarjha on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:44AM (#20432435)
Is reinforcement learning just hurting the computer until it does what we want it to do?